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  #330961 17-May-2010 16:40
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SJB:
There is no difference but I think he may be getting the Freeview guide from terrestrial and the 'other' broadcasters guide (whose name we may not mention) from satellite.


I was just thinking therefore that he could get both freeview and "everything else" from the DVB-S Tuner, in one run, keeping things a little bit simpler.

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  #330965 17-May-2010 16:46
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Mattv:
SJB:
There is no difference but I think he may be getting the Freeview guide from terrestrial and the 'other' broadcasters guide (whose name we may not mention) from satellite.


I was just thinking therefore that he could get both freeview and "everything else" from the DVB-S Tuner, in one run, keeping things a little bit simpler.


If I could do that - that woudl be sweet.  then i woudlnt have to tie up a -t tuner. I did buy the-s card purely for epg collecting ...... so - if I could use the tuner parameter to dive straight into this card then that would be awesome.

It may have already been explained elsewhere - but is there a difference between the freeview and 'other' guide?


 
 
 
 


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  #330985 17-May-2010 17:52
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You can collect everthing from the dvb-s tuner. Just list all the frequencies in the ini file.

You will need Station lines in the ini file to exclude all of the 'other' broadcasters stations you don't want. The last time I tried it there were 87 'other' stations in total.

You can set the last parameter on every frequency line to Y for MHEG format collection because if it's not available on a frequency it collects it in EIT format anyway (one of the 'other' broadcasters formats).

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  #330999 17-May-2010 18:49
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The whole thing sounds like more trouble than it's worth, I might just stick with http://nz.tv.yahoo.com/

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  #331014 17-May-2010 19:20
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steve181: The whole thing sounds like more trouble than it's worth, I might just stick with http://nz.tv.yahoo.com/
You say that with a certain bias... Seriously though, once you know the benefits of a custom guide set up all by yourself you'll never go back.

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  #331015 17-May-2010 19:22
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steve181: The whole thing sounds like more trouble than it's worth, I might just stick with http://nz.tv.yahoo.com/


Having an electronic guide on your HTPC is way better than having to visit a website to check what's on... And you can't program series recording, etc...





 

 

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  #331017 17-May-2010 19:24
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buzzy:Incidentally, while there's some good documentation scattered around on this thread, it was some effort to get things like the frequencies and other options sorted out. I'd be happy to volunteer some time to write a how-to and provide common example configurations, if that'd be helpful. Perhaps the SourceForge documentation tab, or inside the download package would be good? Just a thought :)
 


If you want to create a one page document, with frequencies listings I am happy to post on its own page on Geekzone with lins back to the download at sourceForge... Might as well benefit of all the Google juice possible.





 

 

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  #331038 17-May-2010 20:08
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freitasm:
steve181: The whole thing sounds like more trouble than it's worth, I might just stick with http://nz.tv.yahoo.com/


Having an electronic guide on your HTPC is way better than having to visit a website to check what's on... And you can't program series recording, etc...



Agreed, but I think some of us with IT experience take for granted the skills we have and that running a HTPC is not really an area I suggest a non IT user enter.  If creating INI files with the core details proves difficult, then there are going to be many more obstacles along the HTPC journey which I going to reduce the pleasure/nivana we all experience :)

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  #331075 17-May-2010 21:14
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Buzzy : Happy to post a one pager on Sourceforge too ;-) thekiwi is right, we sometimes forget that things we take for granted can appear daunting & confusing to other users.

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  #331085 17-May-2010 21:33
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Two quick things:

- a reboot solved the second tuner issue I mentioned on the previous page, and

- I will try to write up a how-to and samples for NZ locales, then provide it to Mauricio and giggles to post. Feedback and comments gratefully appreciated :)

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  #331156 18-May-2010 07:07
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- I will try to write up a how-to and samples for NZ locales, then provide it to Mauricio and giggles to post. Feedback and comments gratefully appreciated :)


What happened to the app with gui to create the .ini files?




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  #331163 18-May-2010 07:37
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Underway. Unfortunately real work has been full on :-( No ETA sorry, but it will include all of the frequency details so people won't have to go web searching.

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  #331207 18-May-2010 09:44
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freitasm:
steve181: The whole thing sounds like more trouble than it's worth, I might just stick with http://nz.tv.yahoo.com/


Having an electronic guide on your HTPC is way better than having to visit a website to check what's on... And you can't program series recording, etc...




Yeah I can certainly see it's advantages. What I really need is some help in plain english to get a full electronic guide running in media centre but I don't expect people to go out of there way & I don't want to harp on about it. :)

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  #331216 18-May-2010 09:56
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steve181:
freitasm:
steve181: The whole thing sounds like more trouble than it's worth, I might just stick with http://nz.tv.yahoo.com/


Having an electronic guide on your HTPC is way better than having to visit a website to check what's on... And you can't program series recording, etc...




Yeah I can certainly see it's advantages. What I really need is some help in plain english to get a full electronic guide running in media centre but I don't expect people to go out of there way & I don't want to harp on about it. :)


1.Download the Grabber
2.Edit the "EPG Collector.ini" file: comment everything that is not related to your use (DVB-T or DVB-S)
3.Run the program
4.Download Big Screen EPG
5.Run the program and load the .XML file into Media Center

If you want you can use other tools, but Big Screen is easy to use. You can create a Scheduled Task and add the EPG Collector as a step so it automates the whole process.

If running Windows 7 you might want to output the XML file to a personal or temporary folder instead of the default.

The thing you will need to know is where you are to then use the correct frequency settings. In our Freeview forum there's a sticky post with all frequencies.






 

 

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#332001 19-May-2010 22:15
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Have just bought a USB dvb-s2 modem (Tevii S6600).  It works with teh bundled software etc so I can watch tv

It worked perfectly for two runs on epg grabber using satellite.ini so I decided to edit up an ini file etc to skip stations etc and  guess what!! - It wouldn't work.  So I tried with thedefault files again and still no joy.  it still works with thebundled software however.  Reboot did nothing.  Is it something simple?  log below.


22:09:40:687 Started on 19/05/2010
22:09:40:687 ============================ EPG Collector V1.0.17 ==============================
22:09:41:531 Tuner info: Node type 0
22:09:41:531 Tuner info: Node type 1
22:09:41:531 Tuner info: Descriptor 8da2c7ee-c732-4d41-85e6-52a1d41a16d8 71985f4c-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0 0
22:09:41:531 Tuner info: Descriptor 03c9d19f-f812-4561-ae0c-6b951503ea0d 6390c905-27c1-4d67-bdb7-77c50d079300 1
22:09:41:734  
22:09:41:734 Found tuner 1: TeVii DVB-S/S2 Receiver (Satellite)
22:09:41:734  
22:09:41:734 Processing command line parameter: /ini=jeff.ini
22:09:41:734 Processing ini parameter: Output:Jeffs Listings.xml
22:09:41:750 Processing ini parameter: Timeouts:10,300
22:09:41:750 Processing ini parameter: Satellite:1600
22:09:41:750 Processing ini parameter: Dish:9750000,10750000,11700000
22:09:41:750 Processing ini parameter: Frequency:12546000,22500,3/4,H,N
22:09:41:750 Processing ini parameter: Frequency:12581000,22500,3/4,H,N
22:09:41:750 Processing ini parameter: Frequency:12608000,22500,3/4,H,N
22:09:41:750 Processing ini parameter: Frequency:12644000,22500,3/4,H,N
22:09:41:750 Processing ini parameter: Frequency:12707000,22500,3/4,H,N
22:09:41:750 Processing ini parameter: Frequency:12421000,22500,3/4,H,N
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Frequency:12456000,22500,3/4,H,N
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Frequency:12483000,22500,3/4,H,N
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Frequency:12519000,22500,3/4,H,N
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1082
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1083
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1084
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1088
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1089
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1090
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1107
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1132
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1195
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1196
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12546000,1912
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12581000,1005
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12581000,1080
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12581000,1085
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12581000,1093
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12581000,1100
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12581000,1120
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12581000,1121
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12581000,1122
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12608000,1035
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12608000,1078
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12608000,1124
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12608000,1125
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12608000,1126
22:09:41:765 Processing ini parameter: Station:12608000,1127
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12608000,1128
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12608000,1129
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12644000,1001
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12644000,1033
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12644000,1034
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12644000,1060
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12644000,1079
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12644000,1086
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12644000,1198
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,330
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1002
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1050
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1081
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1101
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1102
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1104
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1130
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1131
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1133
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1197
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1911
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12519000,1105
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12421000,1028
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12421000,1029
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12421000,1044
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12421000,1091
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12421000,1093
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12707000,1018
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12421000,1037
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12421000,1038
22:09:41:781 Processing ini parameter: Station:12421000,1075
22:09:41:796 Failed to open MHEG Parser Format.ini - assuming default MHEG parser format
22:09:41:812 Processing frequency 12546000 to locate stations
22:09:41:812 BDA DVB-S tuning space does not exist - creating one
22:09:41:828 BDA LNB Low: 9750000
22:09:41:828 BDA LNB High: 10750000
22:09:41:828 BDA LNB Switch: 11700000
22:09:41:828 BDA Frequency: 12546000
22:09:41:828 BDA SRate: 22500
22:09:41:828 BDA FEC: Rate3_4
22:09:41:828 BDA Longitude: 1600
22:09:41:828 BDA Polarization: LinearH
22:09:41:843 BDA Adding Network Provider - Trying Windows Generic Provider...
22:09:41:843 BDA Adding Generic Provider
22:09:41:843 BDA Generic Provider added - Setting TuningSpace...
22:09:41:843 BDA TuningSpace set
22:09:41:843 BDA Adding MPEG2 Demux
22:09:41:843 BDA Added MPEG2 Demux
22:09:41:859 BDA Adding BDA Board Filters
22:09:41:859 BDA Adding tuner filter
22:09:42:593 BDA Added tuner filter
22:09:42:593 BDA Tuner only model for board filters
22:09:42:593 BDA Adding TIF Filter
22:09:52:500 BDA Added TIF Filter
22:09:52:500 BDA Adding Sections And Tables Filter
22:09:52:515 BDA Added Sections And Tables Filter
22:09:52:515 BDA Connecting MPEG2 demux to TIF filter
22:09:52:531 BDA Connected MPEG2 demux to TIF filter
22:09:52:531 BDA Connecting MPEG2 demux to Sections and Tables filter
22:09:52:531 BDA Connected MPEG2 demux to Sections and Tables filter
22:10:03:343 BDA Tuning to: 12546000:-1:-1:-1
22:10:03:343 BDA Graph playing
22:10:24:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:25:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:26:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:27:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:28:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:29:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:30:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:31:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:32:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:33:578 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:10:34:593 Failed to acquire signal
22:10:34:593 BDA Graph stopped
22:10:34:593 Retrying frequency
22:10:34:593 Processing frequency 12546000 to locate stations
22:10:34:593 BDA Frequency: 12546000
22:10:34:593 BDA SRate: 22500
22:10:34:593 BDA Longitude: 1600
22:10:56:093 BDA Tuning to: 12546000:-1:-1:-1
22:10:56:093 BDA Graph playing
22:11:17:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:18:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:19:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:20:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:21:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:22:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:23:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:24:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:25:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:26:703 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:11:27:703 Failed to acquire signal
22:11:27:703 BDA Graph stopped
22:11:27:703 Retrying frequency
22:11:27:703 Processing frequency 12546000 to locate stations
22:11:27:703 BDA Frequency: 12546000
22:11:27:703 BDA SRate: 22500
22:11:27:703 BDA Longitude: 1600
22:11:49:046 BDA Tuning to: 12546000:-1:-1:-1
22:11:49:046 BDA Graph playing
22:12:10:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:11:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:12:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:13:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:14:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:15:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:16:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:17:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:18:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:19:281 Signal not locked and signal quality not > 0
22:12:20:281 Failed to acquire signal
22:12:20:281 BDA Graph stopped
22:12:20:281 ============================ Output data report ==============================
22:12:20:281 Summary: Total Stations = 0 Total Gaps = 0 Total Overlaps = 0 Total Time = 00:02:39.5937500
22:12:20:281 Finished - created 0 EPG entries
22:12:20:281 Exiting with code = 0


 

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