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  Reply # 836293 13-Jun-2013 13:17
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stevo018: So the Business idea is this.


The product is solid and sells itself, especially with a higher Lumins product coming out, it breaks the argument of $/Lumins which is stopping people from jumping to LED as a viable form of lighting. And with a 50,000 hr (5 year) lifespan, verses 1,000 hr for a traditional bulb it is starting to make more sense. Did you know traditional bulbs have been taken off the market UK wide now?





So do you guarantee them to last 5 years minimum. Also where are they made, they aren't the cheap ones you can buy direct from chinese websites like abibaba and the like are they?

I think you will need more than a couple of hundred for a decent website, otherwise you get what you pay for. If that is your main marketing tool, that is where you should invest your money, as with it's slow hosting . You get what you pay for.



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  Reply # 836316 13-Jun-2013 13:41
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The CEO created and designed the product here in NZ then got it certified World wide. The production is done off shore, but the product is worthy of a 3 year warranty. After 5 years the LED's start to degrade exponentially, but until that point they are expected to work above 95%. RoHS, FCC, CE, and EMC approved and safety tested.

I agree that most of the ones that we have seen over seas are cheap quality, and some are even being sold not certified. These are not the case however. A quick inspection of any of the bulbs and components are of good quality. The LED's are Samsung. 

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  Reply # 836322 13-Jun-2013 13:55
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StarBlazer: An extra, I think your site looks better on an iPad (never thought I would ever say that) without the flash.

Be careful, if you miss the 's' from your URL it goes directly to similar product supplier.


You mean because it is flash, and flash doesn't load on ios? Or does it load an HTML site?

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  Reply # 836341 13-Jun-2013 14:24
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stevo018: The CEO created and designed the product here in NZ then got it certified World wide. The production is done off shore, but the product is worthy of a 3 year warranty. After 5 years the LED's start to degrade exponentially, but until that point they are expected to work above 95%. RoHS, FCC, CE, and EMC approved and safety tested.

I agree that most of the ones that we have seen over seas are cheap quality, and some are even being sold not certified. These are not the case however. A quick inspection of any of the bulbs and components are of good quality. The LED's are Samsung. 


So mention it, tell the story, who is the CEO? what's his backgronud?, the work he put into the products etc etc, all of this helps to make a connection between a potential customer and your business, 

You are competing with a boat load of other companies all shilling LED lights, make the personal the point of difference, 



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  Reply # 836344 13-Jun-2013 14:33
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You're absolutely right. There is a story here. And a good one at that. The fact that a NZ'er has created this product that is starting to really move on the international market should be a huge draw in for a NZ based company.

I am now in process of upgrading the website, and all of the advice that I have gained in just 2 days of posting on this website is going to help. And keep it coming.

Watch this space... a new website, with the story, and much more relevant information will be available soon. 

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  Reply # 836358 13-Jun-2013 14:55
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mattwnz:
StarBlazer: An extra, I think your site looks better on an iPad (never thought I would ever say that) without the flash.

Be careful, if you miss the 's' from your URL it goes directly to similar product supplier.


You mean because it is flash, and flash doesn't load on ios? Or does it load an HTML site?

Yes, there is an alternative HTML site when you look at it on the iPad.  It's simple and clean and loads much faster.




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  Reply # 836359 13-Jun-2013 14:59
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Ah - so you guys are reselling and providing installation services for the LimitlessLED bulbs? (http://www.limitlessled.com/) I think it's a great idea and the product looks good too. But as others have said, the current website is crap - you need to avoid Flash as much as possible. Are you operating as a one-man band?



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  Reply # 836368 13-Jun-2013 15:03
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2 man band, I'm Marketing and procedures etc, he is Tech based. Yes we are re-selling limitlessLED stuff and getting the word spread in Auckland to begin with, as Hamish CEO LimitlessLED is based in Tauranga.

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  Reply # 836413 13-Jun-2013 15:58
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My 2c:

I think the product looks promising - I am keen to replace some old lighting with energy efficient (not slow start CFL).

As a straight bulb swap out - 60w equivalent is probably a little on the low side - so 75w or 100w - great! Will keep an eye on your site.

Also - as you have allowed GZers to have a look at your site maybe you might like to think a little about the mail order side of things. GZ people like DIY and fiddling around with tech things - so having the ability to buy a kit and set it up themselves would be a positive for this audience and if its a good experience they will be free advertising for you.

Of course you would need a little bit more techo info on your site to go with it - how many bridges supports how many bulbs etc - how many remotes do you need etc.

Also - the missing item is a replacement for 12v/230v 50 halogens - Many homes have a few of them now - anything like that coming on stream?




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  Reply # 836419 13-Jun-2013 16:04
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There is one being created, but this is a few months away. Keep your eye out for it, because we will be the first ones in the world with it, hopefully. The ones that are out there are too big. They will all be in the 60W area to begin with though. There are adapters available, but this wouldn't look so nice in a down light fitting, you know?

I really appreciate the feed back, and am now in the process of rebuilding based on the great suggestions. I think we will look at possibly moving to an e-commerce site to allow purchasing of a Starter kit for the BZ crowd.

Thanks again to all. 2c are most welcome

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  Reply # 836422 13-Jun-2013 16:17
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Are the ones being created now to replace the 12v 50w halogens just a globe or the whole fitting?
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  Reply # 836427 13-Jun-2013 16:23
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They are still trying to bring them down in size, so at the moment, they are to big to fit into most down light roof fittings. This is being worked on, but the issue comes with down sizing the light bulb. If everything is too compact Heat causes an exponential deterioration on the chip inside the bulb.

So simple answer, there is a bulb for every fitting you need. The bulb SIZE might be an issue if you don't like the look of it. Does that answer your query? 

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  Reply # 836435 13-Jun-2013 16:32
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I was trying to establish if they would be MR16 type globes or the whole downlight fittings that Limitless have said are on the way.
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  Reply # 836443 13-Jun-2013 16:42
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I believe it will be the GU10 fitting, but I will find out for you and have a definite answer for you soon

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  Reply # 836594 13-Jun-2013 22:23
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I'm a bit skeptical of the efficacy claimed; 820lumen/7w = 117l/w. The best fittings I have seen are 70l/w.

It's great that you do have a light output listed though (even if it needs checking). Many vendors only state how many 'watts' of LEDs the fitting contains.

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