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# 207835 16-Jan-2017 08:35
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Looking at Skinny website this morning and noticed they have unlimited (fixed line) broadband available for $68 per month with no contract.

 

Is this new to Skinny or did I miss it when I looked on their website last week?

 

I signed up for the Skinny Wireless Broadband service, but I also have an Unlimited ADSL connection with BigPipe for $79 P/M which I intended on keeping, would happily switch to Skinny for that also (assuming their system allows me to have two broadband services).


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  # 1703921 16-Jan-2017 08:42
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Yes it's just released today.

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  # 1703925 16-Jan-2017 08:51
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Weird, one Spark company doing unlimited for $79/month. Another Spark company doing it for $68/month.

 

What is the difference? Why stay with Bigpipe?


 
 
 
 


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  # 1703926 16-Jan-2017 08:55
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On Bigpipe you can get static IP and the Bigpipe App, also you can BYO modem.


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  # 1703930 16-Jan-2017 09:09
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Yeah, was wondering about the Static IP. I'd assume Skinny is all CG-NAT and no way to get off that. I also wonder if you are stuck with their modem (or can you BYO)? But, for $11 less per month, it will suit a lot of people.


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  # 1703933 16-Jan-2017 09:19
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seems like a desperate response to the likes of the trustpower deal that is still happening, despite comcom intervention.

 

 

 

Jason Paris last year said that sort of contract pricing (first year cheap, 2nd year expensive) was very 'anti-customer'.  Now he goes and launches basically the same thing? 

 

 

 

But the real question is:

 

why bother doing this, when they could just do the exact same thing with Bigpipe?  Launching an entirely new broadband brand is a lot more work (time+$$) than simply making a price change on an existing one.   Is spark trying to become the unilever of telcos?

 

 

 

Question:  is this using spark broadband network?  Bigpipe broadband network? or another brand new set of gear?

 

 

 

$68 for VDSL & UFB (you get the 'best technology available at your address') is pretty damn close to the point where you just lose money on every connection. Competitors may start to complain about predatory pricing.

 

$68 less GST is ~$60.

 

Chorus cost is ~$40. then add on your international bandwidth (for unlimited connections on VDSL and UFB this is going to be at least $10) and other backhaul costs and you're already talking over $50, probably over $55.  Which leaves a miserly $5 to cover all your other overheads. 

 

If Bigpipe, cutting out all the costs it can, prices VDSL at $89, how the hell can skinny get it down to $68, a full $20 lower without making a loss?  Comcom might well see a few complaints from other telcos about this pricing.

 

 

 

 


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  # 1703934 16-Jan-2017 09:19
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Actually just saw that, if I can't use my own modem, I'll stick with BigPipe.


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  # 1703947 16-Jan-2017 09:44
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If you try and check out legal offer summary details from this page -

 

 

 

https://www.broadbandunlimited.nz/

 

 

 

You get a "In order to access this article, you must be logged in. ", well that is really pretty bad to be frank.


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  # 1703951 16-Jan-2017 09:57
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"Fastest connection ADSL < VDSL < UFB" ... well clearly that's just like Bigpipe's "UFB where we have a handover" because they're telling me VDSL and I've had UFB since 2013 (Whanganui).

 

I guess they're competing with Flip at those prices. 


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  # 1704047 16-Jan-2017 12:24
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Seems like a good deal to me.

 

I would likely go for the $68 per month and keep my options open.

 

I do like that they'll upgrade me from VDSL to Fibre once it is available, but don't like that I will have to chase them to do it!

 

@livingskinny are there any fees for upgrading from VDSL to Fibre?


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  # 1704053 16-Jan-2017 12:30
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Dont see anything on there about CG NAT, so either they are hiding it like some other ISPs or is it a proper IP address as normal with them?





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  # 1704057 16-Jan-2017 12:32
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richms:

 

Dont see anything on there about CG NAT, so either they are hiding it like some other ISPs or is it a proper IP address as normal with them?

 

 

 

 

CGNAT confirmed in the other thread 


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  # 1704059 16-Jan-2017 12:33
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Well then they should probably warn people about that on the site since it makes it pretty useless for console gaming.





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  # 1704064 16-Jan-2017 12:43
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richms:

 

Well then they should probably warn people about that on the site since it makes it pretty useless for console gaming.

 

 

 

 

only if you want to host your own games.  I gamed on CGNAT for quite a while on PS3 and had no issues at all.  (I have static IP now for other reasons)

 

I think XBL has some problems with it though, so I agree, yes it should be made much clearer.


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