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Topic # 229112 8-Feb-2018 09:26

Signed up to Skinny this morning for fixed fibre broadband - currently on VDSK with another provider.

Does Skinny offer fixed IP's for their fixed broadband?

UPDATE: Not sure if this applies to fibre though?

Can I get a Static IP address?
Unfortunately, we can’t offer Static IP addresses. This means you can’t use your modem as a gateway server or for services like hosting particular games.

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Reply # 1953491 8-Feb-2018 09:30

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It's all CGNAT

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Reply # 1953498 8-Feb-2018 09:41

DarkShadow:

It's all CGNAT

Even the fibre?

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Reply # 1953500 8-Feb-2018 09:48

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tchart:

DarkShadow:

It's all CGNAT

Even the fibre?

Yes.

If you need a public IP, pick another ISP, I'd suggest Voyager or BigPipe

Information wants to be free. The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

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Reply # 1953507 8-Feb-2018 10:12

Lias: If you need a public IP, pick another ISP, I'd suggest Voyager or BigPipe

What about using a DynDNS?

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Reply # 1953509 8-Feb-2018 10:13

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kryptonjohn: What about using a DynDNS?

Not going to help. It's just going to be pointing at the external IP that's shared by you and dozens/hundreds of other Skinny customers.

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Reply # 1953631 8-Feb-2018 13:50

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What DarkShadow said.

Skinny use CG-NAT, not simply dynamic IP's.

In a "normal" NAT scenario, your dozen devices at home all share one public IP address. NAT is what lets you have one single IP address on the public internet and share it between all those devices. CG-NAT takes it a step further. In addition to all your devices using private address space, your "public" IP is actually another private address space, and you and dozens or hundreds of other customers IP's all share a single public IP in a "big daddy" version of that technology. And yes I know this is a gross oversimplification before someone pounces on me :-P

Information wants to be free. The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

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Reply # 1953637 8-Feb-2018 13:57

Lias:

What DarkShadow said.

Skinny use CG-NAT, not simply dynamic IP's.

In a "normal" NAT scenario, your dozen devices at home all share one public IP address. NAT is what lets you have one single IP address on the public internet and share it between all those devices. CG-NAT takes it a step further. In addition to all your devices using private address space, your "public" IP is actually another private address space, and you and dozens or hundreds of other customers IP's all share a single public IP in a "big daddy" version of that technology. And yes I know this is a gross oversimplification before someone pounces on me :-P

Ah, thanks for that.

Currently I'm using DynDNS as it helps to have a constant internet address by name, not number, for my GetFlix DNS service... would be a bugger if it stopped working (currently on Spark VDSL).

Is CG-NAT widespread among NZ ISPs?

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Reply # 1953639 8-Feb-2018 14:00

kryptonjohn:

Is CG-NAT widespread among NZ ISPs?

Only for the ultra-cheap ISPs (e.g. Skinny, Bigpipe), and newer ISPs (where the cost of acquiring new IPv4 address is expensive). They big five ISPs all use real IPv4 addresses.

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Reply # 1953647 8-Feb-2018 14:15

stinger:

They big five ISPs all use real IPv4 addresses.

For now. I suspect CG-NAT is something we are going to see more of, not less, because people just realllllly don't want to move to IPV6.

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Reply # 1953651 8-Feb-2018 14:19

Lias:

For now. I suspect CG-NAT is something we are going to see more of, not less, because people just realllllly don't want to move to IPV6.

More likely, they just don't care, and they wouldn't notice if they have a real IPv4 address or were behind a big CG-NAT. I chose 2 degrees (in part) because not only did they offer IPv6 on fibre, but they also offered ip6.arpa delegations too. AFAIK, no other ISP in New Zealand offers that (definitely not the other big 4)

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Reply # 1955576 12-Feb-2018 10:48

Is there a workaround for CGNAT so I can view my DVR cctv remotely. I changed to Skinny unaware of CGNAT, never heard of it before yeaterday. I used DDNS and port forwarding for years. Worked a treat.

Thanks

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Reply # 1955581 12-Feb-2018 10:52

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CGNAT:

Is there a workaround for CGNAT so I can view my DVR cctv remotely. I changed to Skinny unaware of CGNAT, never heard of it before yeaterday. I used DDNS and port forwarding for years. Worked a treat.

Thanks

You could set up a VPS (which can be as cheap as US$10/y) and route traffic via that. Not the prettiest work around, but the only one I can think of.

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Reply # 1955647 12-Feb-2018 12:10

stinger:

You could set up a VPS (which can be as cheap as US$10/y) and route traffic via that. Not the prettiest work around, but the only one I can think of.

Thanks. Yes, I'm studying the prospect at the moment. Looks complicated. I'd only need the service at certain times. I view the cameras via smartphone so I suppose I'd be switching the service on or off as need be.

I'd better start a new thread...

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Reply # 1955651 12-Feb-2018 12:22

CGNAT:

stinger:

You could set up a VPS (which can be as cheap as US$10/y) and route traffic via that. Not the prettiest work around, but the only one I can think of.

Thanks. Yes, I'm studying the prospect at the moment. Looks complicated. I'd only need the service at certain times. I view the cameras via smartphone so I suppose I'd be switching the service on or off as need be.

I'd better start a new thread...

For your usecase, opt for something simple.

Get a RSP that isn't over CGNAT.

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Reply # 1956051 12-Feb-2018 22:29

stinger:

You could set up a VPS (which can be as cheap as US$10/y) and route traffic via that. Not the prettiest work around, but the only one I can think of.

Looking a bit closer, can you recommend a VPS? Would $2/month get something reliable? I want to study this option a bit more. Thanks

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