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  # 564760 5-Jan-2012 12:53
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Not true.
With another networks sim (I brought my iPhone 4S from XT, its on 2Deg now) you go to settings, General, Network, Mobile Data Network, and enter settings there. It wont let you do it manually if you're with the network you brought it from because it has settings built in I assume. I couldn't do it when I was on XT. But then again, I had no need to.


2Degrees Settings are not on the iPhone by default so as it cannot find the Settings for the MMC/MNC (530/24) on the iPhone. It will use a "default" Profile one the iPhone which allows you to Edit the Data Settings.

Lets Clarify this.

all have MCC of 530 (New Zealand)

MNC (01) Vodafone - Has all the Settings built in but Vodafone allow you to change settings (by hand)
MNC (24) 2Degrees - Does have the settings built in so uses the default profile which you can change settings (by hand)
MNC (05) Telecom - Does have the settings built in for XT and doesn't allow you to edit settings (by hand)

Where you "purchased" the iPhone doesn't matter (a NZ iPhone is the same if sourrced from Telecom or Apple Store) for the APN Settings as its all based in the MCC/MNC. BUT in some countries Apple allows carriers to Carrier Lock the iPhones so they will only work with their MCC/MNC

In the USA AT&T Locked iPhones only work with AT&T Sims (expensive plans) but you can use AT&T MNVO's SIm Cards as well in them (cheaper rates) as they are identified to the iPhone as AT&T.


 

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  # 564770 5-Jan-2012 13:01
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Think I will pick up a sim or 2 since I can. Big ups to them for the voicemail answering service that wont take messages. wanted that since foreverago on other telcos. now no idiots leaving messages despite the outgoing saying not to and filling up the box requiring mass deletion.

Will probably port my 2? pay monthly over since I dont really use it




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  # 564771 5-Jan-2012 13:03
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hamish225:
billgates: Great pricing.

$4/week for 120MB data! $16/month for 480MB.


Great? for $3 more i can get more than twice that data on 2Degrees!
Its just like telecom.
Mind you it is stll using their network so one can't expect too much. 



$20 for 1GB from 2Degrees is only available in selected places atm. Telecom XT's network is nationwide and the pricing does not differs throughout the country. Till 2Degrees have their own network deployed or have one pricing for the entire country, I am not interested in them.  




Do whatever you want to do man.

  

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  # 564775 5-Jan-2012 13:17
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LennonNZ:  


Not true.
With another networks sim (I brought my iPhone 4S from XT, its on 2Deg now) you go to settings, General, Network, Mobile Data Network, and enter settings there. It wont let you do it manually if you're with the network you brought it from because it has settings built in I assume. I couldn't do it when I was on XT. But then again, I had no need to.


2Degrees Settings are not on the iPhone by default so as it cannot find the Settings for the MMC/MNC (530/24) on the iPhone. It will use a "default" Profile one the iPhone which allows you to Edit the Data Settings.

Lets Clarify this.

all have MCC of 530 (New Zealand)

MNC (01) Vodafone - Has all the Settings built in but Vodafone allow you to change settings (by hand)
MNC (24) 2Degrees - Does have the settings built in so uses the default profile which you can change settings (by hand)
MNC (05) Telecom - Does have the settings built in for XT and doesn't allow you to edit settings (by hand)

Where you "purchased" the iPhone doesn't matter (a NZ iPhone is the same if sourrced from Telecom or Apple Store) for the APN Settings as its all based in the MCC/MNC. BUT in some countries Apple allows carriers to Carrier Lock the iPhones so they will only work with their MCC/MNC

In the USA AT&T Locked iPhones only work with AT&T Sims (expensive plans) but you can use AT&T MNVO's SIm Cards as well in them (cheaper rates) as they are identified to the iPhone as AT&T.


 


So basically, if you aren't on Vodafone or Telecom in NZ, then just put another SIM in there and it enables the settings? 




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  # 564778 5-Jan-2012 13:20
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billgates: Skinny should let users buy 120MB add on it's own without buying any combo packs.    


Yes, I would have my parents 3G iPad switched over in a flash if that was the case as week by week option is perfect for the occasion off-wifi use it gets, casual rates are a killer, likewise monthly packs are uneconomic as it is usually too much to consume

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  # 564780 5-Jan-2012 13:26
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So basically, if you aren't on Vodafone or Telecom in NZ, then just put another SIM in there and it enables the settings? 


If the SIM you put doesn't have the settings built in (based on the MCC/MNC) then it will use the default settings yes which allow you to edit the settings. Vodafone does allow you to edit the APN details by hand tho. its only Telecom which doesn't in NZ. (This is for NZ Carriers)

Different Countries/Carriers do it differently and it depends on what the Carriers have asked Apple to do (if their settings are built in)

You used to be able to (Maybe still work on latest firmware - have to test when I get home) put in Vodafone SIM (or Vodafone MNVO).. Change settings.. then put in XT Sim card in and the APN settings would stay the same as when the Vodafone Sim was in..

 

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  # 564782 5-Jan-2012 13:27
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billgates:
hamish225:
billgates: Great pricing.

$4/week for 120MB data! $16/month for 480MB.


Great? for $3 more i can get more than twice that data on 2Degrees!
Its just like telecom.
Mind you it is stll using their network so one can't expect too much. 



$20 for 1GB from 2Degrees is only available in selected places atm. Telecom XT's network is nationwide and the pricing does not differs throughout the country. Till 2Degrees have their own network deployed or have one pricing for the entire country, I am not interested in them.  


True, but it works for me since i hardly ever leave Christchurch, and if i do i either have no signal at all or I'm driving so i can't use my phone ANYWAY. 
Or ill have WIFI...
And if i get really bored i can put a 50mb data block on :) 





 
 
 
 


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  # 564783 5-Jan-2012 13:30
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Doesnt for me as much of auckland is outside the broadband zone. I will wait and see what skinny offers for thr ipad etc before considering them for data




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  # 564786 5-Jan-2012 13:34
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Also I'm thinking that since it goes through the same network the apn settings might be the same.

2degrees and vodafone have the same apn, you just set it as "internet"

so im sure telecom and skinny have/can work out something of the sort.





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  # 564787 5-Jan-2012 13:36
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Big ups to the customer support I got from skinny, just rang up and got a free sim, the girl chucked in a second one in case I want to pass one onto a friend, she talked about what combo would be good for me and also mentioned I get the first combo (loose lips) free for a week! Knew exactly what she was talking about, was laid back and asked questions about what I would want out of it and made sure my phone was compatible before sending it out. Never had better customer support




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  # 564793 5-Jan-2012 13:43
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hamish225: Also I'm thinking that since it goes through the same network the apn settings might be the same.

2degrees and vodafone have the same apn, you just set it as "internet"

so im sure telecom and skinny have/can work out something of the sort.


Settings the Data APN for Skinny on the iPhone is easily (via my website) or the iPhone Configuration Utility.  (Send me your iPhone Customers Skinny :-) ). You just cannot do it manually.
 

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  # 564798 5-Jan-2012 14:00
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tritex: I notice people here are saying the Free Sims can't be ordered online at the moment? Does that mean if it's let me enter my details it actually won't be coming though? Or was it fixed as of about 11ish am....


There is an issue with the form that was up first thing so we have taken it down for the time being.  Please give us a call on 0800 4SKINNY.  

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  # 564808 5-Jan-2012 14:18
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tardtasticx: Big 1up to Skinny. Their CSR's are amazing. So youthful and happy. Really sound like they genuinely want to assist us. My friend called and got his free sim also, said exactly the same thing about his CSR. Deficiently makes a big difference since they're basically representatives of your company.

Nice job Skinny :D


Here they are - http://www.livingskinny.co.nz/contact.php

looking very happy 'cos I just sent them your post.  They say thanks :-)

 

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# 564810 5-Jan-2012 14:24
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Cyris: Just remember, yeah $4 a week sounds cheap and like it's a good idea, but in my opinion it could also very well be a marketing trick.

How would we pay the $4? Through credit? Ok

Alright let's top up with some money, we pay $4 and another $4 for data, accidentally go over minutes and data, it starts using the credit, Oh it's next week, let's pay $8 again for all my minutes and data.

**You have $3 renaming in your account**

I guess I'll have to top up again with another $20


Meh, Just my opinion.


New to these forums, have red for a while and decided to join :)
Im pretty sure that Skinny does $5 top ups to stop this from happening. 

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  # 564813 5-Jan-2012 14:29
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Those who have issues with their perceived pricing value need to take a look at the target market of the product. Skinny isn't aimed at everybody, it's a niche product aimed at a young target market.


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