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#987419 14-Feb-2014 18:30

Give Hayden at Aqua Property Services a call. They did work for me recently and did a great job, and great communication as well. Tell them Tim who had his shed done sent you. They won't be the cheapest, but their prices are fair for the quality.

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#987481 14-Feb-2014 19:25

mattwnz: Are you supplying the paint? If not, I would suggest doing so, as many will just use trade quality which doesn't last as long. I would suggest quality resent paint, which is very long lasting. Just remember to not get the trade stuff. Once you have the paint it will be largely labour only, which will make it easier to find out the hourly rate. Not sure what the hourly rate of a painter is, but there are no qualifications needed so I would expect under 50 per hour.

I would rather a trade qualified painter then one that isn't. Don't need qualification to call yourself most trades.
If it's a two story building, is scaffolding needed?

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#987483 14-Feb-2014 19:31

mattwnz:
timmmay: Dulux seem to have a better undercoat - total prep. I find it sticks better. Sometimes a sealer's needed, mostly for old oily wood.

I have resene paint on my house that was done in the early 90's and has just been repainted, so has lasted over 20 years, and was still in good nick. I didn't need to stri[p it back either, just a sand in the few places that were pealing. Really it had just faded in colour. The only parts that really needed painting were the areas that got lots of sun. But depends on the colour. Personally I do it all myself as all on one level, apart from the roof, which I got a painted in on a labour contract, which they sprayed and cut in with the brush, and only took them about a week.
To the OP, how many hours has been quoted for. Subtracting a bit for paint, and at $50 per hour, that makes 250-300 hours, or nearly 7-8 weeks, which is a very long time for a single small house, and that is at a pretty good pay rate. You also need to reinforce that you don't want trade quality paints. If you ask the people at Resene, they will tell you that trade quality paints won't likely last as long. Remember some companies will quote high if they don't need the work, so get other quotes too. Sure it does take these companies time to quote, but that is a cost of running a business, and I do many quotes myself.

Wasn't provided a breakdown in terms of hours. Was told the job may take 3 weeks.

The list provided only detailed what paint they will use, that they will waterblast, prep etc etc ... They said they will use quality Resene Sonyx (sp?) paint and the Resene undercoat. 1x undercoat, 2x of the top coat was specified.

The $50/hr was just for directly for the window frame rebuilding where required plus materials.

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#987485 14-Feb-2014 19:35

plod:
mattwnz: Are you supplying the paint? If not, I would suggest doing so, as many will just use trade quality which doesn't last as long. I would suggest quality resent paint, which is very long lasting. Just remember to not get the trade stuff. Once you have the paint it will be largely labour only, which will make it easier to find out the hourly rate. Not sure what the hourly rate of a painter is, but there are no qualifications needed so I would expect under 50 per hour.
I would rather a trade qualified painter then one that isn't. Don't need qualification to call yourself most trades.
If it's a two story building, is scaffolding needed?

As before .. scaffolding is included in the quote.

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#987494 14-Feb-2014 19:46

rayonline:
plod:
mattwnz: Are you supplying the paint? If not, I would suggest doing so, as many will just use trade quality which doesn't last as long. I would suggest quality resent paint, which is very long lasting. Just remember to not get the trade stuff. Once you have the paint it will be largely labour only, which will make it easier to find out the hourly rate. Not sure what the hourly rate of a painter is, but there are no qualifications needed so I would expect under 50 per hour.
I would rather a trade qualified painter then one that isn't. Don't need qualification to call yourself most trades.
If it's a two story building, is scaffolding needed?

As before .. scaffolding is included in the quote.

ok missed that, I would say scaffolding is going to be a major component it the quote. And due to health and safety regulations mandatory.
We just had our units reroofed, $38000 of that almost half was for the scaffolding.

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#987497 14-Feb-2014 19:52

As above, scaffolding will add a load onto any paint job these days, even single level at times. Health and Safety less, and more covering/reducing a companies liability these days, at your expense.

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#987498 14-Feb-2014 19:53

rayonline:
plod:
mattwnz: Are you supplying the paint? If not, I would suggest doing so, as many will just use trade quality which doesn't last as long. I would suggest quality resent paint, which is very long lasting. Just remember to not get the trade stuff. Once you have the paint it will be largely labour only, which will make it easier to find out the hourly rate. Not sure what the hourly rate of a painter is, but there are no qualifications needed so I would expect under 50 per hour.
I would rather a trade qualified painter then one that isn't. Don't need qualification to call yourself most trades.
If it's a two story building, is scaffolding needed?

As before .. scaffolding is included in the quote.

Scaffolding could potentially add a lot. Also the difficulty of the house and access to all areas. Maybe a quote breakdown is what you want. I have had quotes from companies, and asked for a breakdown as I thought it was too high,, and once they have broke the cost down, the cost halved. Also is it a Quote or an Estimate. Quotes will likely be higher, as they factor in worst case scenarios. Estimates put some of the risk back on you, as it may end up costing more. But it also may end up costing less.

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#987574 15-Feb-2014 01:18

I guess you have weighed up doing it yourself ? I mean how long does it take you to make 22K,
perhaps a larger company may have their own scaffolding which might bring the price down, but at that money I'd be off down to the hardware shop .

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#987590 15-Feb-2014 07:33

turnin: I guess you have weighed up doing it yourself ? I mean how long does it take you to make 22K,
perhaps a larger company may have their own scaffolding which might bring the price down, but at that money I'd be off down to the hardware shop .

every painter I know has some scaffolding to some degree. If it's used it's charged out. It's definitely not cheap. The 3 painters I know charge the paint out at cost. None of them would offer a guarantee if materials are supplied.

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#987599 15-Feb-2014 08:41

turnin: I guess you have weighed up doing it yourself ? I mean how long does it take you to make 22K.

Remember you have to make $30+ because you pay tax.

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#987763 15-Feb-2014 14:06

Take a couple of weeks off work and do it yourself - did our house last christmas took 2 weeks to strip prep and paint and got a way better finish then the neighbours who paid a painter to do it -

Also depending on the situation of windows etc airless sprayers are pretty decent to :)

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#987804 15-Feb-2014 15:41

Get another two quotes. Then you'll know if it's fair or not. You'd be foolish to go ahead on just one quote.

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#996906 1-Mar-2014 10:37

Still looking into this ... got another guy and he talked about 8k and when after he looked at it he wanted $18k (2k more for some timber repair) he's been chasing us and reduced it by 2k . Within that scaffolding rental is $3k.

Yeah we can paint it the scaffolding is the hard part. Websites don't list prices for mobile scaffolding the one I saw on Trademe 5m high cost $4k.

Yeah the first guy we asked was $23k including the scaffolding. We found it expensive so someone asked the installers there, the $23k quote was the painter working next door. So the installers said didn't the painter give you a quote and so far has not yet provided us a quote. Been a week at least. This other painter with the $18k. Called us the same evening and said within that $3k is the scaffold. Do companies look after themselves? All we wanna do is provide them some dimensions and they offer us a "retail" quote, we expect it to be more than traders quote ..... They are gonna send someone over probably see the same guys again we talked to who haven't provided us a quote, LOL.

We bought cement from the truck before, we gave the dimensions paid for it and the truck came. Man ... it is hard to talk to these companies as average Joe.

In the past we also went to the trader plumbing places with the flash showroom for retail customers the one in Tawa Wellington at the roundabout across from BP. Someone went inside and asked the prices as they are not listed, a small spanner was quoted for $95, went to Placemakers the same exact one was $25.

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#998958 4-Mar-2014 17:45

Fyi, i have had two wellington weatherboard houses painter in last two years.
Both were chemical strip back to bare wood.
One single story was $13K and the other two story was $28K.

Expensive but you get what you payfor. Those prices exclude woodwork and flashings but included scafold and all bay window rebates.

Hot air guns dont cut mustard when it comes to eaves and bungalo details.

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#999028 4-Mar-2014 18:58

well been meaning to write this a while ago - next door neighbour had scaffolding in place in mid January and until today it's still there - how long does it take to paint a house? perhaps they are also doing weather proofing? (90s plaster house) hmm ...

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