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Topic # 146772 28-May-2014 17:56
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I'm after a 5+kW heatpump (the higher the better but they get expensive) for my dining area which is bitter cold on bitter cold days in the deep south.

Is a Mitsi hypercore the best bet? Daikin? others?

I have a new 6kW Nocria in a previous house - it stops to defrost around 50% of the time (seriously!), a 10 year old daikin (probably 8kW) that only stops around 5% of the time ...

Not counting on any authoritative answers but maybe someone can help ...

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  Reply # 1055321 28-May-2014 18:08
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We got a Fujitsu 6kw in our lounge back in 2010. I've never had any problems with it and it has a 6 year guarantee. Paid 3 grand for it.




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  Reply # 1055455 28-May-2014 21:04
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I heard the Mitsubishi has a fairly strong heater in the outdoor unit, so it operates more but may use more power. My Nocria (2 years old) and Daikin (5 years old) both work fine in Wellington, even on the coldest days not much between them. The Daikin is quieter and in general I like it a bit better, but the Nocria I got is a lot more powerful, 10kw or something.

I think you need advice from a dealer down south who's independent and stocks a range of brands. They'd have 50x more experience than most people here.




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  Reply # 1055472 28-May-2014 21:15
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yeah I've tried the dealers, who have no clue. went to a camera shop to buy some lenses and all they know is the price.

but yeah my previous cold house (max top and bottom insulation 60s house) you can tell the ancient daikin kept us alive while the fujitsu might as well not be there.

a fire would be great :D but that's another story ...

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  Reply # 1055479 28-May-2014 21:24
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joker97: 

I have a new 6kW Nocria in a previous house - it stops to defrost around 50% of the time (seriously!)



We've got an old kelvinator that does the same thing... :(

After tax time, we're getting a 9w (heating) 8w (cooling) Fujitsu.

We need the cooling more than the heating in Adelaide, but it's our only source of heat so, meh.

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  Reply # 1055800 29-May-2014 11:48
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Have just bought a 6.3Kw Panasonic and live in Chch, will let you know how that goes when its installed if you would like. 

Also have a log burner which I would never part with!

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  Reply # 1055809 29-May-2014 11:54
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I just installed a Diakin floor mount.  It's great.  It's quiet and allows four timer events per day.  Which basically (apart from the heat) is what I wanted out of a heat pump :-)

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  Reply # 1055867 29-May-2014 13:00
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Friend by a mountain bought a house with just heatpump....I told her it wasn't adequate.

She then got wall heating as well.

This year she has just been to the bank to boor for a woodburner. She says she is sick of being cold...heatpump is warm...barely in the depths of winter.
And as she had the power go out for days at a time....she's getting a woodburner she can cook on too.

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  Reply # 1055871 29-May-2014 13:03
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Most wood burners create a draft in from the ceiling cavity. When I took out a freestanding fireplace it made the house much warmer. Of course being without power it'd be useless, so areas where that's common alternate heating is better - I prefer ducted gas to wood, wood makes the whole neighbourhood smell bad.




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  Reply # 1055872 29-May-2014 13:04
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I have a Mitsubishi, Fujitsu and a Panasonic. Never again will I buy Fujitsu. The Panasonic is really good. The Mitsubishi is probably the best in my opinion, though I'd take either again. After sales service is pretty impressive from Panasonic. I made an enquiry as to if a particular issue was being caused by a faulty remote, and a replacement was at my door the following morning. 

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  Reply # 1055879 29-May-2014 13:11
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i want one of those new Mitsubishi wifi units, just looks cool .  lol

http://www.mitsubishi-electric.co.nz/wifi/#top

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  Reply # 1055883 29-May-2014 13:16
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networkn: I have a Mitsubishi, Fujitsu and a Panasonic. Never again will I buy Fujitsu. The Panasonic is really good. The Mitsubishi is probably the best in my opinion, though I'd take either again. After sales service is pretty impressive from Panasonic. I made an enquiry as to if a particular issue was being caused by a faulty remote, and a replacement was at my door the following morning. 


What's wrong with the Fujitsu?

I have the big Nocria, things that aren't ideal are it's relatively loud and can only take one program - you have to set it each day. The dealer told me they could put a weekly timer in, but after it was installed changed their mind, something missing inside the heat pump apparently.




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  Reply # 1055890 29-May-2014 13:26
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timmmay:
networkn: I have a Mitsubishi, Fujitsu and a Panasonic. Never again will I buy Fujitsu. The Panasonic is really good. The Mitsubishi is probably the best in my opinion, though I'd take either again. After sales service is pretty impressive from Panasonic. I made an enquiry as to if a particular issue was being caused by a faulty remote, and a replacement was at my door the following morning. 


What's wrong with the Fujitsu?

I have the big Nocria, things that aren't ideal are it's relatively loud and can only take one program - you have to set it each day. The dealer told me they could put a weekly timer in, but after it was installed changed their mind, something missing inside the heat pump apparently.


We have had it 6 years, it's been repaired or seen to about 5 times. It was overkill for our requirements. After sales service from Fujitsu has been terrible, and the company we purchased from went under and then was bought by a company who does commercial stuff. THEY have been pretty amazing, but like a lot
of companies are fairly focused on getting money in, and invoices have been quick to flow and for large amounts.  Our one is noisy and just not a patch on the newer units we have purchased.  I'd dearly love to throw it out and replace it.

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  Reply # 1055891 29-May-2014 13:26
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vexxxboy: i want one of those new Mitsubishi wifi units, just looks cool .  lol

http://www.mitsubishi-electric.co.nz/wifi/#top


You can retro-fit these, I've been enquiring as I'm pretty keen but the price is ridiculous - $600+GST installed (and they won't let you self install) for a little plug in unit surprised



Back on topic - have a 6.6kw Mitsubishi unit about 3 years old and during the snow we got a few years back in Wgtn it spent probably 20% of its time defrosting, otherwise its normally pretty good.

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  Reply # 1055979 29-May-2014 14:43
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A Fujitsu from six years ago is a couple of technical revisions ago. Do the new ones still have the same problems?

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  Reply # 1055990 29-May-2014 14:49
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bfginger: A Fujitsu from six years ago is a couple of technical revisions ago. Do the new ones still have the same problems?


I'd rather have a average product with great support than a great product with poor support. Even if they are technically better than they used to be, which I would have my suspicions about, customer care and support is rubbish even as recently as a few months ago, in my experience.

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