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Topic # 147208 12-Jun-2014 12:44
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hi guys,

I'm after a floating fireplace mantel similar to these ones

 


Rather get someone locally to do it.  Posted a job on builderscrack with no real results.

basically I want it to be suitable over a gas fireplace (so wood maybe needed to be treated? i think i just needs to be an appropriate hard wood).  Either easy to hang myself, or I'd be happy to pay a person to install it (south auckland).   Even a single piece of timber would be fine, doesnt have to be square like that, basically just a floating mantle stained cherry red ish.

anyone know someone who could make such a thing, or anyone here could do it?

Thanks,
John

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  Reply # 1064018 12-Jun-2014 12:53
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Check in the gas fires manual. Often there will be requirements for how high and sometimes how far it can stick out specified.



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  Reply # 1064022 12-Jun-2014 12:58
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only says for 20cm above openning no more than 10cm deep, for 30cm above opening and no more than 15cm deep

http://www.escea.com/assets/Technical/IB850-Installation-Manual-NZAU.pdf


so i would want to place it 30cm above the openning, around 154cm wide, 15cm wide.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1064032 12-Jun-2014 13:09
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Hi John - where in NZ are you located?

PS: If the item in your third link above (Ebay) is the size etc you want, it looks like a good price to me. Also looks as though they will ship to NZ.



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  Reply # 1064033 12-Jun-2014 13:10
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south auckland, manurewa.



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  Reply # 1064048 12-Jun-2014 13:28
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mitre 10 said they wouldnt be suitable over a fire, and also the wrong look im wanting.  thanks though.

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  Reply # 1064090 12-Jun-2014 14:09
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The mantle on ebay looks like it could easily be knocked off. I would have thought it would have needed bolting to the wall. Any joinery company would be able to make something like that. I don't think builders crack is the place to get replies to that sort of work.  I believe either the building code or NZ standards have the clearnces you need.  I know with woodburners you often need  a heat shield, not sure on gas ones.   Although the guy at escea should be able to help, he is very helpful.

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  Reply # 1064150 12-Jun-2014 15:07
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Knocked off? Are you referring to the one that looks as if it sits on 2 blocks? I'd say that the whole lot fits over a cleat screwed to the wall. The shelf is usually a hollow box or has a slot cut into it.

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  Reply # 1064168 12-Jun-2014 15:30
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Bung: Knocked off? Are you referring to the one that looks as if it sits on 2 blocks? I'd say that the whole lot fits over a cleat screwed to the wall. The shelf is usually a hollow box or has a slot cut into it.

 

I was referring to the very top link. It had a concealed fixing which hooks onto a wall plate, where if someone applied pressure underneath, it would lift up and fall down. It doesn't look like it was lock onto the wall.

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  Reply # 1064180 12-Jun-2014 15:48
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I see what you mean. That style of fixing is called a "French Cleat" usually used for cabinets where you would have a screw holding the bottom of the cabinet. Whatever is used should have something stopping easy removal.

One of the funniest things I've seen was an extension table where the dowels holding the centre leaf had been cut off because they didn't fit well. When somebody leant on the end of the leaf it flipped along with all the dishes in the centre of the table.

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  Reply # 1064249 12-Jun-2014 17:27
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I’d go and talk to your local cabinet maker, won’t be as cheap as eBay but you’ll get exactly what you’re after and match what’s already in the room.

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  Reply # 1064273 12-Jun-2014 17:53
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Friends did one with a macrocarpa sleeper, looked great.  Although they didnt hide the brackets underneath, just painted them to fit in with the fire place.

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