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macuser
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  #1467789 11-Jan-2016 16:59
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I just switched to Flick today, am in Central Auckland (by eden park) and hoping to save a few cents per KW versus powershop, we're pretty low users (12-16KW a day)

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  #1480946 28-Jan-2016 22:15
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For the last couple weeks I have been getting these peak and troughs in central Auck

 

 

 

I haven't elected to be on an off peak on peak plan, and this pricing doesn't reflect their on peak off peak plan anyway.

 

 

 


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  #1480964 28-Jan-2016 23:22
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macuser:

For the last couple weeks I have been getting these peak and troughs in central Auck


 


I haven't elected to be on an off peak on peak plan, and this pricing doesn't reflect their on peak off peak plan anyway.


 



Interesting. Here's mine from Dunedin for the same day.



We've been with Flick for a few weeks now, and so far I'm totally happy. A new baby meant our bill doubled, moving to flick has certainly taken some of the sting out of it.

One thing I've noticed is there are no consistent price peaks at peak time for me. My pricing is consistently like the picture with the odd peak once or twice a week perhaps.


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  #1480981 29-Jan-2016 00:29
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And Wellington for the same day


Before any comments about the flat line with just a few peaks, we were on holiday at the time with no one home but the hot water cylinder was still turned on (damn) along with other devices so now know what the house uses as electricity on a daily basis just to keep running. It would seem the peaks are the hot water cylinder cutting in to keep the water up to temp!

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  #1480996 29-Jan-2016 06:58
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Interesting that the north gets peaks when the rest of the country doesn't. I've never noticed peaks starting at 6am in Wellington, it does start slowly rising but any morning peak is moderate. Evening peaks are common when it's dry, starting 5pm ish or slightly later when people get home from work.

 

I wonder if the morning peak is because of Auckland traffic - more people get up earlier to beat traffic, and power goes up as a result.


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  #1480999 29-Jan-2016 07:13
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The timimg of the spikes exactly matches the peak / off peak rate offered by Vector - peak pricing from 7-11am and 5-9pm.
https://vector.co.nz/electricity/residential/pricing

The spot price didn't move like that on jan 15 in the north or anywhere else.
http://www.emi.ea.govt.nz/Reports/VisualChart?reportName=W_P_C&categoryName=Wholesale&reportGroupIndex=0&eventMode=Async&reportDisplayContext=Gallery#RegionType=ZONE&TimeScale=TP&WeightedBy=DEMAND&DateFrom=15/01/2016&DateTo=15/01/2016&reportName=W_P_C&condensedView=false


Looks like your graph is showing a peak / off peak rate.

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  #1481000 29-Jan-2016 07:22
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fortydayweekend: The timimg of the spikes exactly matches the peak / off peak rate offered by Vector - peak pricing from 7-11am and 5-9pm.
https://vector.co.nz/electricity/residential/pricing


Looks like your graph is showing a peak / off peak rate.

 

I don't think that's correct. The peak starts around 6am, and hour before peak rates start. Prices surge when there's demand, and demand peaks when everyone gets up and showers, and then when they get home, shower, and cook dinner.


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  #1481002 29-Jan-2016 07:34
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Are we talking about the peak in usage or the peak in price? Usage starts to peak at 6 am but the price doesn't go up til 7am.

The 2 plateaus match the times of the peak rate, and the differential is the same - about 12.5c over the off peak rate.

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  #1481014 29-Jan-2016 07:58
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I indeed think they have moved me to on peak off peak, I need to call them.  Before this it was relatively flat.


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  #1481017 29-Jan-2016 08:02
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macuser:

 

I indeed think they have moved me to on peak off peak, I need to call them.  Before this it was relatively flat.

 

 

Do you mean "smart plan"?


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  #1481089 29-Jan-2016 10:26
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timmmay:

 

macuser:

 

I indeed think they have moved me to on peak off peak, I need to call them.  Before this it was relatively flat.

 

 

Do you mean "smart plan"?

 

 

 

 

That looks right -  those are the Vector price codes (ARHL, ARHS) and rates.

 

Is the "smart plan" new? It's good that they're offering this - it would work really well for any household that doesn't match the morning / evening peak usage. If you don't cook & turn on heaters between 5pm-9pm in winter you could save a lot.


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  #1481104 29-Jan-2016 10:50
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I don't think it has anything to do with your plan, the spot prices in Auckland region on that day had those peaks in them. 

 


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  #1481106 29-Jan-2016 10:55
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Actually, I think I'm going to disagree with my own post, the price was high on that day but the spot prices didn't spike like you are getting and seemed to stay quite high for the whole day.


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  #1481117 29-Jan-2016 11:15
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fortydayweekend: That looks right -  those are the Vector price codes (ARHL, ARHS) and rates.

 

Is the "smart plan" new? It's good that they're offering this - it would work really well for any household that doesn't match the morning / evening peak usage. If you don't cook & turn on heaters between 5pm-9pm in winter you could save a lot.

 

 

I've been on the smart plan my entire time with Flick in Wellington. We have a bit of basic automation, so heating comes on at 3:30 or 4pm on winter before the evening peak, in the morning it comes on at 5:30am if required. All year round dish washing is done at 3am, clothes drier is sometimes done off peak. Putting in a hot water timer before long.


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  #1481125 29-Jan-2016 11:33
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timmmay:

 

fortydayweekend: That looks right -  those are the Vector price codes (ARHL, ARHS) and rates.

 

Is the "smart plan" new? It's good that they're offering this - it would work really well for any household that doesn't match the morning / evening peak usage. If you don't cook & turn on heaters between 5pm-9pm in winter you could save a lot.

 

 

I've been on the smart plan my entire time with Flick in Wellington. We have a bit of basic automation, so heating comes on at 3:30 or 4pm on winter before the evening peak, in the morning it comes on at 5:30am if required. All year round dish washing is done at 3am, clothes drier is sometimes done off peak. Putting in a hot water timer before long.

 

 

 

 

A small battery (10kWh) might even make sense soon - if you're still using 10kWh of power in the winter evenings, you could avoid 10 * $0.12 = $1.20 of lines charges each day by charging the battery at the offpeak rate and using it during the peaks.


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