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  #1581314 27-Jun-2016 17:44
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Really high prices tonight!


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  #1581348 27-Jun-2016 18:25
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Pretty high, nothing like a few weeks ago.

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  #1581374 27-Jun-2016 18:35
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Looks like they had to power on the diesel power plant


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  #1581516 27-Jun-2016 20:37
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Wills1:

Really high prices tonight!



Have any other Flick customers noticed that the Flick app really struggles to serve up the current power price after a notification has been sent out? I sat for 2 or 3 minutes this evening waiting for an answer without actually getting any, and tonight wasn't the only time this has happened for me.

Ironically, the app is only too happy to serve up the CO emission data during these times.

Is Flick running its price database or SLB on underpowered hardware all the time, or do they turn the wick on the VMs down to save $ during the price spikes?




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  #1581517 27-Jun-2016 20:41
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I just use EM6. It has more volatile 5 minute prices, but it's always up.


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  #1581522 27-Jun-2016 20:54
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TonyS071:
Wills1:

Really high prices tonight!



Have any other Flick customers noticed that the Flick app really struggles to serve up the current power price after a notification has been sent out? I sat for 2 or 3 minutes this evening waiting for an answer without actually getting any, and tonight wasn't the only time this has happened for me.

Ironically, the app is only too happy to serve up the CO emission data during these times.

Is Flick running its price database or SLB on underpowered hardware all the time, or do they turn the wick on the VMs down to save $ during the price spikes?




I have exactly the same issue, deleted the app, reinstalled and it seems a bit better. Manage to see the prices for once

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  #1585144 3-Jul-2016 16:25
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Anyone knows what happened on Saturday around 6pm?
I believe 15$/kwh is a bit too much....

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  #1585145 3-Jul-2016 16:35
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High demand. It will often come down to a more reasonably number within 3-5 days.


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  #1585181 3-Jul-2016 17:54
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Rappelle:

droopanu: Anyone knows what happened on Saturday around 6pm?
I believe 15$/kwh is a bit too much....


It hit $95000/MWh on my node.. Nearly crapped myself when I saw the email



Same here. But that was the 5 minute price...
It's weird as it was a balmy Saturday afternoon. I was not expecting high prices...

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  #1585260 3-Jul-2016 20:15
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There might have been an infeasability - in other words the complex maths that automaticly calculates the prices at each node could have jammed. If this happens really high default prices are used. Their purpose is to cause more generation to come online, and loads to be reduced. HVDC load was over 800MW, so could have been localised overloading in lower north island.

 

Have a read of this document

 

If it was an infeasability, the price will change to a more normal amount when the final prices are set.






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  #1585353 3-Jul-2016 23:26
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droopanu: Looks like they had to power on the diesel power plant



It turns out that the Whirinaki diesel power station offered some generation at $220 per MW. When they normally offer at over $1000 per MW. Looking at final prices it appears that they set the end price for 5.30 and 6pm. They might have saved everyone from a much higher price spike. If they had instead kept their offer over $1000 per MW.

I got this info from emi.ea.govt.nz
Lots of interesting electricity market stuff there.





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  #1586543 5-Jul-2016 17:04
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Flick website seems to be prediction a big spike starting soon. EM6 looks fine though, still quite low prices.


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  #1586544 5-Jul-2016 17:07
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Low user vs Standard: is it anyone here that is standard? The difference of $1.4/day is so significant that it's likely to chew all the potentials savings compared to other companies.


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  #1586550 5-Jul-2016 17:28
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zerkms:

 

Low user vs Standard: is it anyone here that is standard? The difference of $1.4/day is so significant that it's likely to chew all the potentials savings compared to other companies.

 

 

 

 

I am a standard user, you might like to include your area, in terms of the difference between standard and low user in Canterbury it is about 89c. And yes I believe I would get that back through lower unit costs.

 

 

 

 


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  #1586552 5-Jul-2016 17:31
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Shoes2468:

 

 

 

I am a standard user, you might like to include your area, in terms of the difference between standard and low user in Canterbury it is about 89c. And yes I believe I would get that back through lower unit costs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oops, sorry. It's wellington here and it's 30c vs 171.66c, so it's $1.4166 a day.


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