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  Reply # 1626017 8-Sep-2016 20:07
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How did you receive the alerts?

 

App did nothing. is there an email to sign up to?





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  Reply # 1626020 8-Sep-2016 20:10
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I didn't from the app, that was meant to be sarcastic :-) Because Timmmay posted about the spike I got an update from this thread


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1626025 8-Sep-2016 20:14
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I got a notification from the app eventually. I just knew that in cold stormy weather when everyone's turning the heater on demand will be high, so I looked at the forecast on the Flick website.





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  Reply # 1626080 8-Sep-2016 21:28
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Notifications enabled on this thread, when someone posts, 20% chance of power increase inbound.





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  Reply # 1626142 9-Sep-2016 00:50
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Notifications enabled on this thread, when someone posts, 20% chance of power increase inbound.

 

It would be better if there was a dedicated thread for price spikes?  People could then crowdsource the info and notify...

 

I have to say, I think Flick's model is very positive for the market (provided it is regulated to avoid potential generator gaming).  In reducing price obfuscation it should allow for more efficient use of a resource that is more scarce at certain times than others. 

 

On a fixed plan, if I curtail my consumption during a high price event it should, in theory, reduce everyone's average price by a microscopic amount at the very most (effectively zero). On Flick's, and as seen in previous posts, it should save me a considerable amount of money.  That generates a strong incentive to do so, making demand far less inelastic. 

 

More importantly to me, it makes things like solar + battery far more cost-competitive in the short run if it can be managed intelligently/responsively. Although long run solar+battery might not be as competitive if the peaks are shaved off...


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  Reply # 1626201 9-Sep-2016 07:19
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Price spke thread - alerts only, not discussion. I did start one a while back but people kept using this thread so I gave up on it.





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  Reply # 1626225 9-Sep-2016 08:11
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Hmm I went out to my meter after I got a notification from Choice and sure enough my draw was around 4kW. Flatmate (aka, sister) thought it was a great idea to take a long hot shower. Off goes the hot water and my chance for a hot shower before my flight later on today...





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  Reply # 1626228 9-Sep-2016 08:14
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Price spke thread - alerts only, not discussion. I did start one a while back but people kept using this thread so I gave up on it.


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  Reply # 1626230 9-Sep-2016 08:15
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does this hands on make much difference over a year? It seems to be a lot of hassle with this model for power supply




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  Reply # 1626233 9-Sep-2016 08:16
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Hmm I went out to my meter after I got a notification from Choice and sure enough my draw was around 4kW. Flatmate (aka, sister) thought it was a great idea to take a long hot shower. Off goes the hot water and my chance for a hot shower before my flight later on today...

 

 

Hot water cylinders hold a huge amount of hot water. You might be able to shower for an hour before it got cold, given how much cold tends to be mixed it. I left it turned off for around 30 hours once, because I forgot I'd turned it off during a spike, it took that long under regular use for it to get cool enough to notice.

 

A bath half empties even a decent sized cylinder.





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  Reply # 1626238 9-Sep-2016 08:26
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michaelmurfy:

 

Hmm I went out to my meter after I got a notification from Choice and sure enough my draw was around 4kW. Flatmate (aka, sister) thought it was a great idea to take a long hot shower. Off goes the hot water and my chance for a hot shower before my flight later on today...

 

 

Hot water cylinders hold a huge amount of hot water. You might be able to shower for an hour before it got cold, given how much cold tends to be mixed it. I left it turned off for around 30 hours once, because I forgot I'd turned it off during a spike, it took that long under regular use for it to get cool enough to notice.

 

A bath half empties even a decent sized cylinder.

 

 

Problem - sisterbeast thinks it is a great idea for a half hour shower which is normally fine, but she did it this morning. This empties our hot water cylinder which is in the ceiling of our house (apartment style house). I need to go up there to check the capacity at some point however it isn't big, heats up quick though (normally within an hour for a long shower) but uses a small towns worth of electricity whilst it does so.

 

My landlord has done this house properly with full insulation, double glazing, sound proofing (live right beside the Tawa train station) and a powerful Mitsubishi heatpump so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it is something that'd normally cost 10x as much as a regular hot water cylinder.





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  Reply # 1626249 9-Sep-2016 08:31
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Turn all the other hot taps in the house on, shower will go cold, tell her the tank is empty. Or get up earlier :)





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  Reply # 1626250 9-Sep-2016 08:33
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michaelmurfy:

 

Hmm I went out to my meter after I got a notification from Choice and sure enough my draw was around 4kW. Flatmate (aka, sister) thought it was a great idea to take a long hot shower. Off goes the hot water and my chance for a hot shower before my flight later on today...

 

 

Turn it back on now, peak has finished. Prices will be back below $200 by 9 I'd say.


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MikeB4: does this hands on make much difference over a year? It seems to be a lot of hassle with this model for power supply

 

I guess the "hassle" depends on how much energy you can be bothered expending on managing your load when such peaks happen. The extent of my response is typically to reduce the central heating by a degree, and not run the dish washer at that time - neither being particularly onerous.

 

I think only one of these significant price increase periods have actually hit me (relatively) hard in the wallet - and IIRC it was about an additional $20 for the week. All others (and there have been heaps over the past couple of months - way more than any time since we joined back 17 months ago) have had minimal effect on our bill. My problem is not knowing at the time whether it's going to have truly substantial impact on the final bill or just a minor blip.

 

If you look at the savings Tim's managed to extract, they're significant - but he actively manages his usage by controlling hot water for example; we've still managed to save 19% over our previous provider over that 17 month period while doing SFA. Given we have the hot water and cooking hob on gas, there's not much we can do that would make a significant difference, yet we still pay probably the cheapest overall price for electricity that's available in our location. So, yes, still worth it (thus far) even with minimal effort.


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  Reply # 1626259 9-Sep-2016 08:50
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Flick say if you ignore the price you should save 14% over a regular supplier. I'm at closer to 30%, and it takes very little effort - hot water timer, run the clothes drier and dishwasher overnight where you can be bothered, etc. But for example my wife does most of the washing and drying during the day on the weekend, and she uses warm water, so we have water heating all day Sat. If this was spread out across the week it'd be even cheaper, but it's not worth the hassle to us. During a peak I'll turn the heat down a notch and I might avoid baking things in the oven for hours.





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