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  Reply # 1787207 24-May-2017 07:44
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droopanu:

 

 

 

There is an EMI API that he can use.

 

https://emi.portal.azure-api.net/docs/services

 

 

Geoff from Nodewatch thinks that data comes from http://energy.nzx.com/ sftp site originally. Is there any authoritative source for this data that can be queried?





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  Reply # 1787218 24-May-2017 08:15
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OK - I think I will keep using Flick's API for the time being. I heard that they are working on improvements as well. And email, slack and IFTTT is coming through very consistently. Would be good to have nodewatch up and running again too though.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1787266 24-May-2017 09:14
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Himmig:

 

Hi guys,

 

I got pretty annoyed by Flick not giving me any notifications at all through the app.(not even the spike come through today despite 60 cents / kwH!)
Maybe it's because I seem to have a minimum price of 18 cents at all times (low user plan), who knows.

 

Anyway, I created a webapp last week that queries the Flick API. (Based on madleech's project on Github)
You can set your own price threshold plus I decided that anything > 40 cents is noteworthy. ;-)
You can get notifications via email, slack message and / or IFTTT triggers.

 

flick.business-process.net

It also has some nice gimmicks like exporting all the data of the price updates or a little price chart over the last day or so, etc.
That one caught the spike this morning well (see one of the screenshots below) - easier than trying the flick website that was mostly down...

 

 

Happy to give some people access to test it.
Other REST / SOAP interfaces should be easy to implement too (Home Assistant? Smartthings?).

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you. The IFTTT integration is really nice until Flick implements it on their end (They said they're working on it).

 

I just hope you are careful with the data and the credentials :p


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  Reply # 1787272 24-May-2017 09:26
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Yea as much as I can - Login details are removed immediately after the setup and I use encryption for the short time the information is needed.
I'd rather not have it at all but the API doesn't really give us a different option.

One of the things that would make it more secure and safe for Flick's future API would be the use of OAuth scopes, callback, etc.
Looking forward to them supporting IFTTT directly - the app is a nice little project but obviously not as effective or efficient as running something similiar on their end.

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  Reply # 1787275 24-May-2017 09:30
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One other thing - I could let you opt out of storing the historic price information. Let me know if you'd prefer that. Obviously it would mean the data export and chart wouldnt work but happy to give the choice if you'd feel more comfortable.

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  Reply # 1787347 24-May-2017 11:09
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Himmig: One other thing - I could let you opt out of storing the historic price information. Let me know if you'd prefer that. Obviously it would mean the data export and chart wouldnt work but happy to give the choice if you'd feel more comfortable.

 

 

 

Thank you.

 

I'm actually not very much bothered about the price history. It's easy to deduce based on public information :)

 

 

 

One weird thing I noticed, is that it asks me for the user/pass again when I add a new notification.

 

Is that on purpose? I thought you would be using the authenticator you already have :)

 

 

 

PS. I'm quite impressed that you managed to "quickly put together" this app :)


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  Reply # 1787355 24-May-2017 11:37
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Been thinking about changing to flick , but I'm not really interested in monitoring my power usage every hour. 

 

My concern, is it possible to wipe out a whole years savings over my normal provider (Genesis) if there is just a day or two where wholesale prices are high?

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1787361 24-May-2017 11:43
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surfisup1000:

 

Been thinking about changing to flick , but I'm not really interested in monitoring my power usage every hour. 

 

My concern, is it possible to wipe out a whole years savings over my normal provider (Genesis) if there is just a day or two where wholesale prices are high?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I saved about $360 in a year compared to Powershop (my calculations not flick's).

 

I would need to use about 18KWh at $20/unit or 70KWh at $5/unit to wipe out those savings.

 

Very unlikely :)


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  Reply # 1787362 24-May-2017 11:47
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surfisup1000:

 

Been thinking about changing to flick , but I'm not really interested in monitoring my power usage every hour. 

 

My concern, is it possible to wipe out a whole years savings over my normal provider (Genesis) if there is just a day or two where wholesale prices are high?

 

 

Possible? Yes. But exceptionally unlikely. Prices are sometimes a bit higher than genesis users would pay, but that might be 10 days a year, and the prices aren't usually crazy. There are occasionally high peaks, but they're an hour or two.

 

I've been with Flick two years. According to the Flick dashboard I've saved $1300 over my previous power provider in that time.

 

The key is minimizing your peak time power usage in winter. Hot water and house heating are the key things here. You can still heat the house, but have a timer turn the heating on at 4pm instead of 5pm, so it's not working full power. I use a hot water timer, but that cost $250 and it can have a long payback period - just avoid having long showers during peak time. Run the dishwasher and clothes drier after midnight on the built in timer.

 

You can ignore the pricing completely and save money, but with a few basic changes you'd save more. If you really, really don't want to make any changes then you might be better off with a regular provider.





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  Reply # 1787378 24-May-2017 12:18
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I've been thinking about making the switch too.

 

We are a family of five. The dishwasher runs twice a day, the washing machine typically once (sometimes twice) the dryer maybe two/three times a week. Most showers are in the evening after 8pm and we have a wood burner heating the house. We have wall panels in the bedrooms but they aren't always used.

 

I work from home though, so what does Flick consider to be peak hours so I can manage around them ?

 

 


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  Reply # 1787379 24-May-2017 12:18
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droopanu:

 

 

 

One weird thing I noticed, is that it asks me for the user/pass again when I add a new notification.

 

Is that on purpose? I thought you would be using the authenticator you already have :)

 

 

 

PS. I'm quite impressed that you managed to "quickly put together" this app :)

 

 

Good point about the login - the reason for that is that I actually delete the login data and use the same entry point for any additional notifications.
(so the system doesn't technically know anything about information provided before or the token outside the individual notification process)
I should be able to tweak it so that the same token is used for any subsequent notifications - I'll have a look this evening.

 

It took me about a week to pull together (mostly evenings) but I use Joget 6 which provides all the security features, user management, etc.
So credit to these guys for building an awesome app development platform and madleech who documented the API on Github.


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  Reply # 1787409 24-May-2017 13:00
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martyyn:

 

I've been thinking about making the switch too.

 

We are a family of five. The dishwasher runs twice a day, the washing machine typically once (sometimes twice) the dryer maybe two/three times a week. Most showers are in the evening after 8pm and we have a wood burner heating the house. We have wall panels in the bedrooms but they aren't always used.

 

I work from home though, so what does Flick consider to be peak hours so I can manage around them ?

 

 

 

 

Basically there are two components of the price that vary by time of day.

 

1) Line charges. Set to specific periods by your lines company e.g Orion in Christchurch goes from 4cents to 21 cents, WE in Wellington is constant

 

2) Spot prices. Pretty volatile, tends to be worse in cold weather when everyone is making breakfast/dinner

 

Whereabouts are you?


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  Reply # 1787410 24-May-2017 13:03
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nickb800:

 

 

 

Basically there are two components of the price that vary by time of day.

 

1) Line charges. Set to specific periods by your lines company e.g Orion in Christchurch goes from 4cents to 21 cents, WE in Wellington is constant

 

2) Spot prices. Pretty volatile, tends to be worse in cold weather when everyone is making breakfast/dinner

 

Whereabouts are you?

 

 

Otaki Beach and am currently with Powershop.

 

I've just tried using powerswitch which says I can expect to save $29 a year.

 

I'm happy to work around the peak hours, just need a rough idea of what they are. Which reminds me I have a load of washing to hang !!

 

 


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  Reply # 1787418 24-May-2017 13:10
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martyyn:

 

nickb800:

 

 

 

Basically there are two components of the price that vary by time of day.

 

1) Line charges. Set to specific periods by your lines company e.g Orion in Christchurch goes from 4cents to 21 cents, WE in Wellington is constant

 

2) Spot prices. Pretty volatile, tends to be worse in cold weather when everyone is making breakfast/dinner

 

Whereabouts are you?

 

 

Otaki Beach and am currently with Powershop.

 

I've just tried using powerswitch which says I can expect to save $29 a year.

 

I'm happy to work around the peak hours, just need a rough idea of what they are. Which reminds me I have a load of washing to hang !!

 

 

 

 

The peak hours for spot prices aren't hard and fast. Generally think 7-9am, 5-7pm, but stuff happens. More a case of monitoring the price alerts from the app and mitigating usage when an extreme spike happens.

 

The default is flat rate lines charges in Kapiti, but if you can set things to run overnight/outside peak then I recommend changing your meter to support Smart Plan - Triple Saver. With this, the peak is 7-11am, 5-9pm, night is 11pm-7am, and inbetween is offpeak.

 

https://assets.contentful.com/8pjb06am7y41/l7yjBNTmpwG6CKUWSkY8W/02ecb6277c39ea13fb26ba232ce502e3/Kapiti___Horowhenua_-_Price_Schedule_01_Apr_2017_Web_Schedules.pdf

 

 


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  Reply # 1787422 24-May-2017 13:15
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martyyn:

 

I've been thinking about making the switch too.

 

We are a family of five. The dishwasher runs twice a day, the washing machine typically once (sometimes twice) the dryer maybe two/three times a week. Most showers are in the evening after 8pm and we have a wood burner heating the house. We have wall panels in the bedrooms but they aren't always used.

 

I work from home though, so what does Flick consider to be peak hours so I can manage around them ?

 

 

Flick doesn't define peak hours, it's just that power is usually more expensive 7-9am and 5-7pm (ish). Just schedule your dishwasher for 10am and 2am, or any time outside of the peaks, and try to run the drier overnight unless you need things dry right now.

 

We leave the two heat pumps on 16 hours a day, because my wife and baby are at home. Power bill at the moment in Wellington is around $55/week. Last year, when we weren't home during the day and when we had cheaper line rates at night, it was more like $40 - $45 / week in May. 3 people, old house that's well insulated.





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