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  #1875022 30-Sep-2017 10:23
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Ditto to the above, just rejoined on Friday. Will be good to be home for the next 6-9 months.


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  #1875130 30-Sep-2017 15:47
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Yes, really annoyed that Wellington Electricity will now only do cheap night rates for electric car owners - our savings were much bigger when we could run stuff after 11pm for next to nothing. Here's a copy of our last full bill. We're fairly light users, so I suspect the fixed charges are a higher percentage of our bill than they would be for other people

 

 

 


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  #1875186 30-Sep-2017 17:26
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sparky1685:

 

Yes, really annoyed that Wellington Electricity will now only do cheap night rates for electric car owners

 

 

 

 

Has anything changed recently? 


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  #1876612 3-Oct-2017 12:30
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Another Wellington Flick customer here.

 

155.41 units

 

5.1363c per unit (Spot)

 

25.22c per unit (total)

 

 

 

Interestingly, we had 3 bills in September for 155.xx units.  Would have thought there was something wrong with our meter if it wasn't for a 188 unit bill in the middle.  Somehow we're just really consistant.


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  #1876618 3-Oct-2017 12:38
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CJC:

 

Another Wellington Flick customer here.

 

25.22c per unit (total)

 

 

 

 

That's a bit pricey. You may have cheaper per unit price on genesis with no contract.


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  #1876625 3-Oct-2017 12:51
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zerkms:

CJC:


Another Wellington Flick customer here.


25.22c per unit (total)


 



That's a bit pricey. You may have cheaper per unit price on genesis with no contract.



I presume CJC has included the fixed daily service charge in the total amount which has made the kWh price look high. I’m a Wellington customer and my last bill averaged at 16.2c/kWh plus $1.974 per day service charge (all inclusive of GST)

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  #1876628 3-Oct-2017 12:57
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Teeps:
zerkms:

 

CJC:

 

 

 

Another Wellington Flick customer here.

 

 

 

25.22c per unit (total)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's a bit pricey. You may have cheaper per unit price on genesis with no contract.

 



I presume CJC has included the fixed daily service charge in the total amount which has made the kWh price look high. I’m a Wellington customer and my last bill averaged at 16.2c/kWh plus $1.974 per day service charge (all inclusive of GST)

 

Or is on low user rates?


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  #1876630 3-Oct-2017 13:01
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Teeps:
zerkms:

 

CJC:

 

 

 

Another Wellington Flick customer here.

 

 

 

25.22c per unit (total)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's a bit pricey. You may have cheaper per unit price on genesis with no contract.

 



I presume CJC has included the fixed daily service charge in the total amount which has made the kWh price look high. I’m a Wellington customer and my last bill averaged at 16.2c/kWh plus $1.974 per day service charge (all inclusive of GST)

 

 

 

My latest genesis bill that includes everything results in $0.2452/kWh (low user), dunno.


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  #1876633 3-Oct-2017 13:09
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zerkms:

 

 

 

My latest genesis bill that includes everything results in $0.2452/kWh (low user), dunno.

 

 

Mine with Flick that includes everything (service charge and actual power used) was $66.17 for 323.13kWh so averages out at $0.2048/kWh.

 

It's a bit of a moveable window though as the greater your power use the less impact the daily charge has on the average price.

 

 


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  #1876634 3-Oct-2017 13:14
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Teeps:

 

zerkms:

 

 

 

My latest genesis bill that includes everything results in $0.2452/kWh (low user), dunno.

 

 

Mine with Flick that includes everything (service charge and actual power used) was $66.17 for 323.13kWh so averages out at $0.2048/kWh.

 

It's a bit of a moveable window though as the greater your power use the less impact the daily charge has on the average price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep, I know :-) I'm during my migration to flick back (I'm one of those who left this winter temporarily)

 

My point was: if one ends up having > $0.24/kWh bills on flick it makes sense to think about switching to "traditional" companies.


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  #1876716 3-Oct-2017 14:33
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Wellington Low user Day / Night customer here. Have used a total of 94.22 units for a cost of $20.24 giving an all inclusive cost of 21.48c / unit. This includes all flick charges / GST / daily connection fees etc so not really a good comparison figure.

 

A slightly more useful breakdown

 

Day

 

6.1544 c/kWh generation + 9.29 c/kWh network + 3.75 c/kWh flick margin + 0.113 c/kWh EA Levy = 19.3074 c/kWh

 

Night

 

4.1139 c/kWh generation + 1.89 c/kWh network + 3.75 c/kWh flick margin + 0.113 c/kWh EA Levy = 9.8669 c/kWh

 

 


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  #1876726 3-Oct-2017 15:01
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Yeah, the total per unit number I listed is the final bill divided by the number of units we used.  We're on 'Low User Uncontrolled' pricing so the Network Charge makes up almost half of the bill.  That's pretty much as high as our power usage gets.

 

Flick still reckons we saved $8.50 compared to the biggest retailer in the area.  Haven't looked much into other options lately.

 

We saved a lot more before the lower night rate was pulled from our plan frown


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  #1876729 3-Oct-2017 15:03
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CJC:

 

Flick still reckons we saved $8.50 compared to the biggest retailer in the area.  Haven't looked much into other options lately.

 

 

I've personally found Flick's estimations to be slightly (or may be even not slightly) too optimistic: the actual numbers would be not that impressive.


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  #1876734 3-Oct-2017 15:12
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I had them on the mildly optimistic side of what we were previously paying with Powershop (before any short lived special rates).

 

Using dolsen's breakdown before GST and daily charges etc.:

 

5.1363 c/kWh generation + 11.58 c/kWh network + 3.75 c/kWh flick margin + 0.113 c/kWh EA Levy = 20.5793 c/kWh


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  #1876800 3-Oct-2017 17:37
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dolsen:

 

Wellington Low user Day / Night customer here. Have used a total of 94.22 units for a cost of $20.24 giving an all inclusive cost of 21.48c / unit. This includes all flick charges / GST / daily connection fees etc so not really a good comparison figure.

 

A slightly more useful breakdown

 

Day

 

6.1544 c/kWh generation + 9.29 c/kWh network + 3.75 c/kWh flick margin + 0.113 c/kWh EA Levy = 19.3074 c/kWh

 

Night

 

4.1139 c/kWh generation + 1.89 c/kWh network + 3.75 c/kWh flick margin + 0.113 c/kWh EA Levy = 9.8669 c/kWh

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess you're only able to have the different night charges because you have an electric car. Flick worked so well when the lower night could offset the daytime spikes, then Wellington Electricity ruined the party.


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