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  Reply # 1900503 14-Nov-2017 09:30
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jonathan18:
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EK for me at low use now, is the same or slightly more costly than Genesis was. I might ask them if I can change to low user for 6 months, as we cook with gas and I have turned off the grid to HW, as solar HW is now taking care of it full time. At the last weeks level Im using 7.5kW per day, or 2800 per annum

 



I checked up with EK as to how often one can switch user plans, as we only benefit being on a high user plan for a month or two in winter: I was told such a switch could only happen once a year, and when I queried what that meant I was told that literally meant 365 days since the last switch. Can anyone confirm whether this is accurate?

 

From a legislative perspective, there is no limit as to how often you switch. you could change provider every year.

 

However, each company is under no-obligation to accept your request. So you could switch from EK and then attempt to switch back and they won't take you on as a customer. They also cannot obstruct you moving to another provider.

 

 

 

In short it will likely be an internal policy.

 

 


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  Reply # 1903592 18-Nov-2017 09:59
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I got a call from Flick yesterday, offering customers who left before the winter spike a $75 credit if they come back.

 

How have prices been the past month or so? What are people in Wellington effectively paying per kwh, ignoring daily charges? Can anyone tell me what say what they paid the past month for how many kwh?

 

On EK, taking into account hour of power savings, I'm effectively paying 15.0c/kwh, and prices are static. EK's daily charge is slightly lower.





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  Reply # 1903594 18-Nov-2017 10:04
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How have prices been the past month or so? What are people in Wellington effectively paying per kwh, ignoring daily charges?

 

 

 

 

For the last 2 weeks the prices are higher for me than if I stayed on the genesis (yet the flick app still reports 4-5% savings, which is not true)

 

Speaking of actual numbers the last week was $0.25519/kWh (with genesis it would have been at ~$0.235/kWh mark).

 

PS: the numbers above are for the Wellington region and the meter configured for day/night plans.


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  Reply # 1903620 18-Nov-2017 11:46
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zerkms:

 

For the last 2 weeks the prices are higher for me than if I stayed on the genesis (yet the flick app still reports 4-5% savings, which is not true)

 

Speaking of actual numbers the last week was $0.25519/kWh (with genesis it would have been at ~$0.235/kWh mark).

 

PS: the numbers above are for the Wellington region and the meter configured for day/night plans.

 

 

Is that including your daily rate, or just the power? Does it include GST? I only pay 18c/kwh inc GST.





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  Reply # 1903649 18-Nov-2017 12:30
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timmmay:

 

 

 

Is that including your daily rate, or just the power? Does it include GST? I only pay 18c/kwh inc GST.

 

Wellington here too.

 

Last week:

 

126.76kWh @ 7.1569 c/kWh - $9.07
Network Charge - Low User All Inclusive - 126.76kWh, 9.29c/kWh - $11.78
Network Daily Charge - Low User - 7 Days, 15c/day - $1.05
Metering - Fixed daily charge - 7 Days, 15c/day - $1.05
Flick Access Charge Low User - $0.00
Flick Varable Charge Low User Wellington - $126.76kWh, 3.75c/kWh - $4.75
EA Levy - $0.14
Total - $32.34 (with the 1% credit card surcharge).





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  Reply # 1903650 18-Nov-2017 12:34
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To consider is that the last two weeks, Huntly 5 (e3p) has been on it's yearly maintenance cycle so without that prices have been elevated.


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  Reply # 1903654 18-Nov-2017 13:02
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Thanks @michaelmurfy

 

Based on your total (assuming inc GST), including daily charges Flick has been $0.255 / kwh, Electric Kiwi $0.216 / kwh. This takes into account that we make good use of the free hour of power, though less than we were in the middle of winter.

 

For reference, here's my usage / bill for November to date - all inc GST

 

Electricity charges - 408 kWh @ $0.18/kWh = $73.44
Hour of Power Savings 70.02 kWh FREE! $0.00
Supply charges 16 days $1.88/day $30.08
Total $103.52

 

 

 

If it wasn't for the free hour of power I'd have paid $0.2427 / kwh, still cheaper than Flick.

 

Based on this EK is looking like the best option right now. If prices come down in the middle of summer there might be some savings, but I have to guess the difference won't be massive.





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  Reply # 1903655 18-Nov-2017 13:03
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voy1d:

 

To consider is that the last two weeks, Huntly 5 (e3p) has been on it's yearly maintenance cycle so without that prices have been elevated.

 

 

You never know what's going to happen with the grid, power stations, etc, that's why having a flat rate is useful. Someone else takes the risk, and gets a small reward if things go their way.





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  Reply # 1903656 18-Nov-2017 13:12
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timmmay:

 

 

 

 I only pay 18c/kwh inc GST.

 

 

 

 

 

Thats an excellent rate. Im paying 24c/kWh with ElectricKiwi. How did you get that rate?

 

I still havent been transferred to Flick after 3 weeks, maybe I should just flag it and stick with EK


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  Reply # 1903661 18-Nov-2017 13:29
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timmmay:

 

 

 

Is that including your daily rate, or just the power? Does it include GST? I only pay 18c/kwh inc GST.

 

 

That is including everything. It's a "bill price / number of kWh consumed"


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  Reply # 1903665 18-Nov-2017 13:40
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RexHavoc:

 

Thats an excellent rate. Im paying 24c/kWh with ElectricKiwi. How did you get that rate?

 

I still havent been transferred to Flick after 3 weeks, maybe I should just flag it and stick with EK

 

 

I just applied the regular way back when Flick got expensive. Sounds like you're on low user rates, I'm on standard rates.

 

I checked, and given we paid for 400kw of power in Nov, not founding free hour of power, the standard plan is better for us.





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  Reply # 1903671 18-Nov-2017 13:50
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timmmay:

 

 

 

I just applied the regular way back when Flick got expensive. Sounds like you're on low user rates, I'm on standard rates.

 

I checked, and given we paid for 400kw of power in Nov, not founding free hour of power, the standard plan is better for us.

 

 

 

 

Standard rates here. I used 998 kWh for 2 weeks according to the last bill.

 

Using their price checker on their website, it seems Im in cheap area compared to some people. I couldnt find an address anywhere that gets close to 18c inc GST. - good score!!


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  Reply # 1903739 18-Nov-2017 16:01
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RexHavoc:

 

timmmay:

 

I just applied the regular way back when Flick got expensive. Sounds like you're on low user rates, I'm on standard rates.

 

I checked, and given we paid for 400kw of power in Nov, not founding free hour of power, the standard plan is better for us.

 

 

Standard rates here. I used 998 kWh for 2 weeks according to the last bill.

 

Using their price checker on their website, it seems Im in cheap area compared to some people. I couldnt find an address anywhere that gets close to 18c inc GST. - good score!!

 

 

I tried my address in Lower Hutt - I think that timmmay lives here too - and Electric Kiwi says 188 cents a day and 18 cents a kilowatt hour inclusive of GST. Incidentally, these are the same numbers that Powerswitch uses for Electric Kiwi at my address.


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  Reply # 1903770 18-Nov-2017 16:55
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I'm not in Lower Hutt, I'm in Wellington's northern suburbs, still classed as Wellington.





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  Reply # 1903799 18-Nov-2017 19:09
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timmmay:

 

Thanks @michaelmurfy

 

Based on your total (assuming inc GST), including daily charges Flick has been $0.255 / kwh, Electric Kiwi $0.216 / kwh. This takes into account that we make good use of the free hour of power, though less than we were in the middle of winter.

 

For reference, here's my usage / bill for November to date - all inc GST

 

Electricity charges - 408 kWh @ $0.18/kWh = $73.44
Hour of Power Savings 70.02 kWh FREE! $0.00
Supply charges 16 days $1.88/day $30.08
Total $103.52

 

 

 

If it wasn't for the free hour of power I'd have paid $0.2427 / kwh, still cheaper than Flick.

 

Based on this EK is looking like the best option right now. If prices come down in the middle of summer there might be some savings, but I have to guess the difference won't be mass

 

When I did the math with Genesis, at a $90 power bill it as equal. Incl GST and daily charges, not including free hour of power. I could change. BUT, we have two heat pumps. Our hour of power is 9pm to 10pm. I could change that to 4pm to 5pm. Still do dishwasher and washing machine, but also both heat pumps on cool cycle.  As well as the free hour of power we can back off heatpumps on cool in the evening. More savings


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