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Niel
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  #1199414 17-Dec-2014 18:43
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mdooher:
Niel: One thing I don't see in the replies is that you can only replace like for like.  For example you cannot change from a recessed down light to a pendant light (or the other way round).  AFAIK you are also not allowed to relocate a fitting or wiring.  To me this means that no, you cannot change from fixed wiring to socketed wiring (unless the socket is in-line, which has stricter compliance standards than a wall socket).


Um, if you re-read section 3 (c) of ESR above you will see you can relocate fittings.

Also there is no longer any requirement for like for like replacement


Interesting, so it seems you can now move it in a way that requires extending the cable?  And by extending, I mean you have to replace it with a longer one as I don't think you (or electricians) are allowed to join cables except at a socket/switch/fitting?  But you are not allowed to replace the cable that runs to the switchboard?  Rules must have changed in the last 3 or so years, for the better.




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richms: Hows that work when there are 10A sockets on the range like some older ones have? Never got why they allowed those as that means its way easy to trip out the range circuit when you plug a couple of appliances into the range
ovens go on circuits rated for 32amps.  sure, if you're silly enough to run a kettle on one side and microwave on the other while simultaneously running the oven and hobs you'll be sure to blow something but ovens have fuses for those outlets.




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  #1199554 17-Dec-2014 22:37
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Whoa! Comes back from work and a whole debate with 2 strongly opposing views!

I thought it would be a clear answer one way or other!

Hmm a lot to think about ... but sounds like a sparky's going to be needed.



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as a sparky i can say that most new ovens have AWFUL termination boxes and you need all your skill and knowledge to terminate them safely.
One oven was so bad i ripped out the termination box and and added a decent one. i couldnt sleep at night if it had caught fire due to the sub standard and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too small termination box. seriously its fekkin oven FFS theres plenty of room for a decent termination point.  rant over

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  #1200202 18-Dec-2014 21:44
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may I acknowledge the time and effort that mdooher put in to help me out. very grateful for his generosity!

thank you for the work. what a community here!

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  #1200384 19-Dec-2014 09:51
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floydie: as a sparky i can say that most new ovens have AWFUL termination boxes and you need all your skill and knowledge to terminate them safely.
One oven was so bad i ripped out the termination box and and added a decent one. i couldnt sleep at night if it had caught fire due to the sub standard and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too small termination box. seriously its fekkin oven FFS theres plenty of room for a decent termination point.  rant over


+1 to this.

Make sure you tell the sparky what you want done, otherwise he'll take the cheap route and just put the existing cable straight into the back of the oven, something which you could've done. Getting a new range plug + socket looks nice but it is extra cost. http://www.pdl.co.nz/products-nav.aspx?id=699

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floydie: as a sparky i can say that most new ovens have AWFUL termination boxes and you need all your skill and knowledge to terminate them safely.
One oven was so bad i ripped out the termination box and and added a decent one. i couldnt sleep at night if it had caught fire due to the sub standard and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too small termination box. seriously its fekkin oven FFS theres plenty of room for a decent termination point.  rant over


+1 to this.

Make sure you tell the sparky what you want done, otherwise he'll take the cheap route and just put the existing cable straight into the back of the oven, something which you could've done. Getting a new range plug + socket looks nice but it is extra cost. http://www.pdl.co.nz/products-nav.aspx?id=699


Well, actually this oven was a Bosch wall oven with a plug in flex. It was quite similar to a jug. ie you hard wire the flex into the wall and then plug the oven into the flex.(or is it the flex into the oven:))

I didn't put another plug on the wall because I didn't need to.







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