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  Reply # 1318578 7-Jun-2015 09:55
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Thats fine, not planning to DIY the whole thing anyway, just the easy stuff.

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  Reply # 1318585 7-Jun-2015 10:00
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i dont think i have any before photos :(

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1318587 7-Jun-2015 10:06
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all good after photo's would be nice, need some idea's and colour schemes, especially for little things that I'd probably miss when thinking about a modern bathroom (store display's brochures only show so much)

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  Reply # 1318725 7-Jun-2015 15:50
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mentor: I was in a similar boat back in 2011 when we got the keys to our first home.

The ensuite needed some attention as the corner of the acrylic shower was leaking and the surrounding area was rotting.

I got a few quotes for a complete reno with tiled shower etc and I got a range of 20-25k.

I decided to give it a go myself (No kids back then) with lots of spare time.

Studied the building code, got advice from a few pros and did most of the reno by myself including:
- Re gibbing
- Water proofing walls and floor areas
- Plumbing
- Tiling
- Plastering
- Painting
- Fitting W/C, Shower and Vanity

I got a sparky to install an exhaust fan with halogen heat lights and a plumber to connect the WC.

All up cost me 5.5k in total.

It's been 4+ years now and no issues.

Took me 8 full weekends as there was a lot of learning involved as I'm an IT professional and had no experience with any of the above jobs :-)



Planning to do similar. In terms of consent how did you go about that? We are planning to convert a bedroom next to the master into an ensuite. I'm planning to get a draughtsman to do the drawing and consenting, builder to do the basic framing/gibing and a beam in the ceiling. Plummer to do all plumbing. Then do the rest ourselfs. My wife will do the jib stopping. I will do shower lining waterproofing/tiling. Will build vanity cabinets my self. Electrical/lighting/extractor my self.

I'm just not clear how to handle the consent. I can get owner builder exemption but my understanding is that, that then means you can't have pros working on the job. Anyone with consenting experience in a diy situation?




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  Reply # 1318830 7-Jun-2015 19:20
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i dont think council will sign off waterproofing thats been done by a non accredited person. all this leaky building crap caused by....builders , has meant that now most DIY'ers cant do stuff like you want to do anymore.

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  Reply # 1318831 7-Jun-2015 19:25
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Well that's a good question. An owner builder exemption means that doing the work yourself (even restricted work) is legal however do they actually inspect and sign off the work...hmmm..Not sure.




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  Reply # 1318833 7-Jun-2015 19:28
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floydie: i dont think council will sign off waterproofing thats been done by a non accredited person. ...


I can tell you from recent personal experience that this is completely true.

You MUST get it done professionally, and have suitable paperwork to prove it - or the whole thing will need to be ripped out and done again, at your expense.

Don't fall into this trap.  undecided




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  Reply # 1318847 7-Jun-2015 19:43
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"The owner-builder exemption will not cover works such as electrical, gas or plumbing and drainage
unless the owner-builder holds appropriate licenses for this work"
So is applying a waterproof membrane one of the above disciplines? Drainage? Plumbing?




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  Reply # 1318887 7-Jun-2015 21:01
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I had a bathroom done by a good firm, at significant cost. Should there have been some kind of paperwork, plan, signoff, etc?

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  Reply # 1318985 7-Jun-2015 22:15
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timmmay: I had a bathroom done by a good firm, at significant cost. Should there have been some kind of paperwork, plan, signoff, etc?


Only if planning permission was required for structural alterations / house additions.

Not required if you just refurbished an existing bathroom without altering it.




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  Reply # 1319044 8-Jun-2015 07:37
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timmmay: I had a bathroom done by a good firm, at significant cost. Should there have been some kind of paperwork, plan, signoff, etc?


Only if planning permission was required for structural alterations / house additions.

Not required if you just refurbished an existing bathroom without altering it.


We stripped the room, relined, put in a new floor including waterproofing, move the hot water cylinder, replumbed and rewired. Completely gutted it.

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timmmay:
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timmmay: I had a bathroom done by a good firm, at significant cost. Should there have been some kind of paperwork, plan, signoff, etc?


Only if planning permission was required for structural alterations / house additions.

Not required if you just refurbished an existing bathroom without altering it.


We stripped the room, relined, put in a new floor including waterproofing, move the hot water cylinder, replumbed and rewired. Completely gutted it.


That did not require planning consent, as you were just refurbishing an existing room.
We moved an internal wall to enlarge the bathroom, moved a door, and moved a window, so consent (and a lot of paperwork) was required.




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  Reply # 1319425 8-Jun-2015 14:48
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We are you looking at doing our bathroom as well and my understanding from reading this (page 87) is that you need consent if (among other things) you are installing a tiled wet area that requires waterproofing as opposed to an enclosed shower unit.  You can also move/remove doors/windows and walls without consent if they aren't load bearing walls.



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  Reply # 1319505 8-Jun-2015 16:09
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im pretty sure thats meaning a wet area shower, it no base and its just tiled. If its as enclosed shower unit with a base or a shower over bath then i think that doesnt apply

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cldlr76: We are you looking at doing our bathroom as well and my understanding from reading this (page 87) is that you need consent if (among other things) you are installing a tiled wet area that requires waterproofing as opposed to an enclosed shower unit.  You can also move/remove doors/windows and walls without consent if they aren't load bearing walls.


We did our alterations (moved walls and doors and installed a tiled wet area shower) in 2013 when consent was required, and I think that the rules of the game have changed/relaxed since then:

"Schedule 1 was amended on 28 November 2013 by the Building Amendment Act 2013 with the intent of making the exemptions easier to use."

But you still need consent to install a tiled wet area shower - so all that horrible paperwork that we did was not wasted  smile






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