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  # 1409837 20-Oct-2015 14:24
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How fast can you pull things down/out? I'd be looking to remove as much as possible and then have the plumber come for a single visit where I remove the last bits of kitchen hardware and he then does his thing moving them into the right place. But that assumes no plumbing is going on new walls. 

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  # 1410206 20-Oct-2015 22:10
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graemeh: 
I'd say do it in the following order:
1) Electrician and Plumber remove power outlets, switches, taps etc and leave them in a safe / non-leaking state
2) Demolition including removal of cabinets.
3) Builder builds stuff but leaves wall linings off
4) Electrician and Plumber re-arrange electrical and plumbing in wall (no outlets, switches taps etc installed yet)
5) Wall linings on, plastering/gib stopping done
6) Paint
7) Tile / floor coverings
8) Cabinets in
9) Take measurements for stone worktop, manufacture and install
10) Splashback in
11) Electrical and plumbing fittings installed

Done!

I'm assuming here that there will be some critical dimensions for the worktop so can only be made once the room is almost complete.  If this is not the case it can be manufactured earlier and installed with the cabinets.

You may also need a building permit to do this so also need to allow for inspections in these tasks.


We're currently at the gibbing stage - the plasterer starts tomorrow. We are laying vinyl plank and the installer is adamant that he is last - the cabinets are installed without the toe kicks and then he installs and the toe kicks go over the top. 

We have 2 long benches (no corners) so the benchtops (one formica one SS) will be installed the same day as the cabinets. 

The splashback will be measured for once the cabinets are in but the outlets will be attached before they return - it's no big deal to remove them again for the glass install apparently - and there is a 10 day delay for the glass The glass people will also install a temperorary backsplash behind the gas stove so the gasfitter can sign off. 




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  # 1410278 21-Oct-2015 04:39
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jonb: Thanks, that is just what I was wanting to get an idea of.  Aiming to keep the existing tiled floor and use some spare tiles as needed.

Worktops will be installed about a week after cabinetry installation, with that in mind how far in advance should the strip-out occur to enable building, electrical plumbing and painting?


When we did our kitchen earlier this year we did the demo a week before the plasterer started which allowed us time to get a plumber in to do the pipework and electrician in to strip old wiring. Plasterer took two weeks during which we installed insulation (1 day) and had electrician do the rewire (2 days). From there we had to wait another 2 weeks for the installers to put the kitchen in during which we painted and did the floors (sanded and coated hardwood which required time to set). We than had the installers and electrician in the house on the final day, with the plumber coming late that afternoon to do the final install.
Still to do the splash backs/tiling.

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It took us around 5 weeks from demo to completion doing a lot of the work ourselves in the evenings. We set aside 1 week from demo to the start of construction to allow prep.

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  # 1410288 21-Oct-2015 07:17
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Last year we spent $15k to re-do our bathroom (6m2) and separate toilet (2m2?).  This included new bath, shower, toilet, hand basin in toilet room, basin in bathroom, sanding & treating floors, re-gibbing. plastering, tiling, new fan, led lights, heated towel rail, new power plugs & moved switches, reconditioning window.

We did the painting ourselves.

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  # 1410348 21-Oct-2015 09:51
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lissie:
graemeh: 
I'd say do it in the following order:
1) Electrician and Plumber remove power outlets, switches, taps etc and leave them in a safe / non-leaking state
2) Demolition including removal of cabinets.
3) Builder builds stuff but leaves wall linings off
4) Electrician and Plumber re-arrange electrical and plumbing in wall (no outlets, switches taps etc installed yet)
5) Wall linings on, plastering/gib stopping done
6) Paint
7) Tile / floor coverings
8) Cabinets in
9) Take measurements for stone worktop, manufacture and install
10) Splashback in
11) Electrical and plumbing fittings installed

Done!

I'm assuming here that there will be some critical dimensions for the worktop so can only be made once the room is almost complete.  If this is not the case it can be manufactured earlier and installed with the cabinets.

You may also need a building permit to do this so also need to allow for inspections in these tasks.


We're currently at the gibbing stage - the plasterer starts tomorrow. We are laying vinyl plank and the installer is adamant that he is last - the cabinets are installed without the toe kicks and then he installs and the toe kicks go over the top. 

We have 2 long benches (no corners) so the benchtops (one formica one SS) will be installed the same day as the cabinets. 

The splashback will be measured for once the cabinets are in but the outlets will be attached before they return - it's no big deal to remove them again for the glass install apparently - and there is a 10 day delay for the glass The glass people will also install a temperorary backsplash behind the gas stove so the gasfitter can sign off. 



I have a pet hate about floors that finish just under cabinets.  It becomes a bit of a nuisance when fitting appliances like dishwashers.  I can see why your flooring installer wants go last though.  If it was me I'd have them lay the floor under any appliances like the dishwasher that sit on the floor.

In our house a previous owner had tiled after the dishwasher went in so you can guess what we needed to do when the dishwasher failed and had to be replaced!

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  # 1410483 21-Oct-2015 13:25
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graemeh:

I have a pet hate about floors that finish just under cabinets.  It becomes a bit of a nuisance when fitting appliances like dishwashers.  I can see why your flooring installer wants go last though.  If it was me I'd have them lay the floor under any appliances like the dishwasher that sit on the floor.

In our house a previous owner had tiled after the dishwasher went in so you can guess what we needed to do when the dishwasher failed and had to be replaced!
 

The flooring people say it's a pain when they install before the kitchen and then have to do the floor again when the kitchen people destroy it dragging appliances across it. I was going to get them to lay under the freestanding fridge and freezer. We're not doing tiles - it's luxury vinyl plankes so it's not that hard to patch if required further down the track - a long way down the track because both the stove and dishdrawers are brand new! 




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