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Topic # 193435 10-Mar-2016 20:28
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So I purchased my first home recently. One of my considerations was finding somewhere that I could fit a small sleep out on - they pay for themselves after a few years, increase your rental income thus helping you pay your mortgage off sooner and an extra person in the house brings down fixed costs like internet and power.

 

I looked at a few on trademe, but it was hard to find one that was the largest size (10sqm) allowable without resource consent. You can get a second hand one for between $6000 and $9000 depending on specs, but I found a guy who builds them. I drew up some draft plans for what I wanted and he's turned that into an actual building for me, total cost was $12,000 including double glazed window and ranch slider, electricity, fittings, insulation etc. When it's done, it's probably going to be the warmest and nicest room in the house.

 

Anyone else looking at portable buildings as a way to add value to your house?

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1510898 10-Mar-2016 20:50
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We just put one of these on our property. About 11000 all up.

 

http://zealco.co.nz/

 

 


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  Reply # 1510992 10-Mar-2016 23:50
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 We built (or more accurately had built) a decent-sized sleepout at the back of our section about three years ago; I think it's about 7x4? That includes a bathroom (shower/toilet/basin), has a decent veranda on it, and is 'connected' to the house by a large deck. 

 

We didn't do it so much for adding financial value to the house, but for its significant practical value - it currently functions as our home theatre and exercise space; family and friends can stay in it and have their own space; equally it provides us a (typically) child-free zone; I've used it as my home office, and is likely to become my wife's home office soon. 

 

Totally worth the money we spent on it - not a cheap job, but worth every cent. Checked an old spreadsheet for the main costs: basic build (to paint-ready) was $32k; electrical incl heatpump $4k; plumbing fittings $2.4k; building consents $1k; deck $9k.

 

The main point is that there was no need for resource consent. Of course it'll differ by location/council, but unless we'd breached distance to boundary, the casting shadow on neighbours thing, site coverage and maybe one or two other similar things, we could (and were able to) avoid needing a resource consent - and that's for adding about 28m2 of building.

 

My suggestions would be don't skimp on getting something that fits in well into the surrounds, including thinking how it relates to (and has access to) the main house, eg a linking deck; if it's an option, do think about including a bathroom. We initially weren't going to, but my god I'm glad we did - it completely changes the value and use of the space. I know you're talking about a "portable" sleepout, but I think many of these same things can apply; a higher initial cost for something that's more useful and pleasurable is worth it!




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  Reply # 1510993 11-Mar-2016 00:03
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In Christchurch, you need consents or exemptions if it's larger then 10sqm, if it has plumbing. You also need a proper concrete pad if it's larger then 10sqm.

 

I'm pretty happy with what im getting and the guy who is going to be renting it is keen too - next step will be building a deck :)


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  Reply # 1510998 11-Mar-2016 00:12
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Willuknight:

 

In Christchurch, you need consents or exemptions if it's larger then 10sqm, if it has plumbing. You also need a proper concrete pad if it's larger then 10sqm.

 

I'm pretty happy with what im getting and the guy who is going to be renting it is keen too - next step will be building a deck :)

 

 

Do those requirements post-date the earthquakes, or have they always been that tough?

 

Sounds a good financial investment - only issue I'd see is what does the poor bugger do for a toilet - a chamber pot?! 


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  Reply # 1511095 11-Mar-2016 09:39
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To the OP, As well as Power points, make sure it has the cabling ( and appropriatly located outlets ) for Internet, Phone and TV, otherwise this this will get overun by cords pretty quickly


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  Reply # 1511120 11-Mar-2016 10:23
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Our last s/or was 12m2 and used as an office, laundry (main house didn't have one and I added a shower to the bathroom when taking out the washing machine, and an occasional guest bedroom.

Current house (moved in 3 days ago!) is a new build, and has everything + a spare bedroom so we passed on the 'sleepout' idea when designing it... Though we now have plans for renting out our bus conversion motorhome as a 'small flat' too. Shower and toilet with a mains hookup and 4 beds all for $25,000.... Definitely a winner if 'moveable' is desired as can also be our holiday 'batch' if not being rented at the time 👍

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  Reply # 1512803 14-Mar-2016 10:31
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and an extra person in the house brings down fixed costs like internet and power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really? I have an extra person in my house now, it's increased the power and increased internet usage thus meaning I had to go up to the next data plan.

 

 

 

Less people = less power. The main power here is hot water. Extra showers- extra costs.

 

Even if you have separate metering for this sleepout, it won't save you anything...




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  Reply # 1512818 14-Mar-2016 10:42
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pctek - Like I said, "fixed costs". We're already on unlimited so it brings down the cost of our internet. In terms of power, it brings down the fixed line rental costs, of course you pay more in power but individually you pay less.

 

wellygary - TV and phone are now outdated. I have installed a through network connection and will be hooking it up to the house backbone.

 

jonathan18 - I think it's actually a NZ wide thing. It's in the building code, and its not so much tough as it is , if its less than 10sqm you're still legal without having to do anything. You can do anything you like if council doesn't find out. The sleepout will be using all of the house facilities.

 

 

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  Reply # 1512866 14-Mar-2016 11:17
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What kind of insulation are you planning?  It will get very cold / damp in the winter and extreamly hot in the summer. 

 

 




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  Reply # 1512963 14-Mar-2016 12:28
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Bats + double glazing. Will see what else we need to add. I've had a cabin like this before and it was really warm.


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  Reply # 1512966 14-Mar-2016 12:36
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Yep my 12m2 was always warm with just a fridge for heating 😆

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