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  # 1996477 15-Apr-2018 15:05
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Just get the Cromwell, it's the same thing.

 

But - the mystique is fine to run without power as long as you want. (this is sales/techs for Masport advising me) The fan is also awesome to dry clothes in front of. On high it is unbelievably hot.


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# 1996541 15-Apr-2018 16:51
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thanks for that smile. I think the less working parts the less problems, so no fan is got to be the way to go :) and a clothes rack hung from the ceiling to dry my clothes should do the trick :) 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1996561 15-Apr-2018 17:45
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13.3kW will dry all your clothes no worries. Doubt you need to put the clothes high at all.

 

When I first bought my Mystique (might have been one of the first owners) it was rated at 12.8kW. Further testing showed it was 16.2kW (now advertised as this). It feels like my clothes dry instantaneously, and zero humidity from doing it. We sometimes open the back door to cool down our lounge in winter.

 

Agree, less moving parts the better. I've had a few issues with the blower unit (noisy), but has been good for while now.


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  # 1996585 15-Apr-2018 19:22
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chellesthe1:

 

thanks for that smile. I think the less working parts the less problems, so no fan is got to be the way to go :) and a clothes rack hung from the ceiling to dry my clothes should do the trick :) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From what I can see, it looks to be basically the updated version of the Mystique, but cheaper. I did ask the manufacturer when the updated version was going to be coming out after the retailer didn't recommend the Mystique and it being a 1st gen product, but they didn't tell me when it would come out, so it ended up costing them a sale, as I went for another one instead. If they had told me a new version was coming out when it did, I would have gone for it, as it looks to fix a lot of the downsides with the 1st gen version.


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  # 1996587 15-Apr-2018 19:25
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Weird. It's been out for ages. My last email from the supplier on the Cromwell was 04/12/2017, with stock expected in January 2018.


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  # 1996590 15-Apr-2018 19:42
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Psilan:

 

Weird. It's been out for ages. My last email from the supplier on the Cromwell was 04/12/2017, with stock expected in January 2018.

 

 

 

 

I got my wood burner around Oct 2017, but I would have waited until later if I had known the update to the Mystique would be coming out at the end of 2017. But I had to confirm the model , along with construction details and clearances etc for council for building consent. I did email and ask them about when the updated model would be coming out but never replied with an answer. The retailer also didn't know, but they guessed next winter,and they suspected it would cost more. But neither proved to be the case.


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  # 2055875 13-Jul-2018 15:52
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I got a Cromwell for $3899 including free flue kit.  Add $1500 for installation, $55 for building consent search (so I could get the house plans ), $15 for current certificate of title, and $249 for the building consent ( which I had to do myself since my solid fuel installer was too busy to do this ).  I am replacing a free standing open fireplace which was put in in the 1970s.

 

I won't be able to test the fire until it's been inspected.

 

Since the lounge is at one end of the house, and the ceiling is much higher than the doorway, I'm thinking of putting in a grill to let the heat move out to other parts of the house.  There's no ceiling cavity for heat transfer units.


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  # 2056050 14-Jul-2018 09:03
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Actually, rather than a grill, I'm thinking of getting a builder to install an operable transom window over the two sliding doors to the lounge where I have the fireplace.

 

Anyone done this to try and increase the movement of heat from the fireplace to the rest of the house?


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  # 2056054 14-Jul-2018 09:28
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gchiu:

Actually, rather than a grill, I'm thinking of getting a builder to install an operable transom window over the two sliding doors to the lounge where I have the fireplace.

 

Anyone done this to try and increase the movement of heat from the fireplace to the rest of the house?

 

 

ideally you will need some form of fan or positive pressure to push the warm air heat through, if the room with the fire is well sealed you could do this by pulling cooler air in to it

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  # 2056057 14-Jul-2018 09:38
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I gather moving heat from room to room is a bit of a science.  Either way I'm going to need a hole in the wall since the door transom is over 1 m below the ceiling and is going to trap hot air inside my lounge.  A window would let the heat passively escape.  Cold air blown into the room would help disrupt the stratification of air layers but my understanding is that you need a high airflow fan to do this effectively.


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  # 2056439 15-Jul-2018 13:24
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I was up on the roof today to take pictures for the building inspector.  The Cromwell was installed yesterday.

 

I was trying to find out what the flashing should be and just saw this.  And the restraint looks to be an old rusty bit of pipe work yell

 

Anyway, should this be flashed with EPDM membrane?

 

 

 


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  # 2056443 15-Jul-2018 13:35
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https://www.masportheating.co.nz/files/downloads/Install%20Manuals/598675.pdf

 

 

 

Read the flue requirements and see if it matches up.


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  # 2056446 15-Jul-2018 13:48
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I think it just says the flashing has to comply with  AS/NZS 2918:2001 


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  # 2056448 15-Jul-2018 13:53
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Here is my one for reference. But looking at this https://www.buildmagazine.org.nz/assets/PDF/Build109-25-SolidFuelHeaters.pdf yours seems OK?

 


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  # 2056451 15-Jul-2018 13:58
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It would seem step 5 has been omitted.

 

 

 


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