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  # 1756612 4-Apr-2017 20:54
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so if it wasnt above the bench top it would be fine?


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  # 1756615 4-Apr-2017 20:57
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Looks like the shelfy part is 150mm wide so should be fine?





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  # 1756640 4-Apr-2017 21:27
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Thanks @gregmcc for that diagram. It's not 400mm vertically from the level of the basin.

 

That diagram is rather cryptic. Given the shelf part is 15cm wide it's probably zone 3? If so it meets standards.

 

I think it's fairly terrible placement. Under the sink would be almost as convenient but safer. But she's not going to move it at her cost if it meets standards, so it is where it is.


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  # 1756644 4-Apr-2017 21:31
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gregmcc:

found it, outside zone 2, >150mm horizontal >400mm vertical. Looking at the picture it looks 150mm Horz, but doesn't look 400mm vert.



Does it have to be the top of the sink or from the overflow that would limit the water level?

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  # 1756645 4-Apr-2017 21:37
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how would underneith it be better? I would hate to be constantly bending over to plug the clippers or whatever into them, would end up leaving them in all the time which is IMO much worse.





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  # 1756700 5-Apr-2017 06:11
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We have our plugs underneath the sink. We use them for charging things, toothbrush and clippers. If you had an electric shaver that would be annoying, but you'd install a shaver outlet if you did that. I don't plan to use an electric shaver so I didn't bother.


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  # 1756887 5-Apr-2017 11:13
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I had a plug put in my bathroom and because it is RCD protected it can be within 30cm of the tap, we managed to move it slightly further but we needed this as there was no where else to put in, in your picture the plug should be higher really to keep it out of splash range.

 

I spoke at length to the electrician before this was installed and he checked the regulations etc.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1756976 5-Apr-2017 12:53
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I wouldn't be concerned from safety perspective if it's an RCD protected circuit.  But I would insist on a certificate of compliance from the sparky.





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  # 1757035 5-Apr-2017 14:26
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MikeAqua:

 

I wouldn't be concerned from safety perspective if it's an RCD protected circuit.  But I would insist on a certificate of compliance from the sparky.

 

 

 

 

It's a legal requirement to provide the COC, if they won't give you one consider laying a complaint with the EWRB.

 

 

 

 


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  # 1757065 5-Apr-2017 14:41
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gregmcc:

 

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Those new standards appear to be private - you can't even know what they are unless you pay for them. That's odd.

 

 

Ignorance of the law is no defence however access to those laws is unreasonably restricted..

 

 

 

 

The law in this case is the Electricity act and the electrical safety regulations, the standards are a recognised way to achieve compliance with the law, the act and regulations are freely available for anyone to download.

 

 

 

 

The legislation is freely available. The standards are not and cost a substantial amount of money. Electricians generally access it under their membership/certification, I think, but they still pay. The argument is that the standards cost a lot to compile etc but I still have a problem with standards that are effectively part of the law but are not freely available.

 

Public libraries are supposed to have them but I doubt most have them do and that they would be up to date.


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  # 1757072 5-Apr-2017 14:51
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Any student can probably get them thru their library login




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  # 1757074 5-Apr-2017 14:53
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Lastman:

 

gregmcc:

 

solutionz:

 

timmmay:

 

Those new standards appear to be private - you can't even know what they are unless you pay for them. That's odd.

 

 

Ignorance of the law is no defence however access to those laws is unreasonably restricted..

 

 

 

 

The law in this case is the Electricity act and the electrical safety regulations, the standards are a recognised way to achieve compliance with the law, the act and regulations are freely available for anyone to download.

 

 

 

 

The legislation is freely available. The standards are not and cost a substantial amount of money. Electricians generally access it under their membership/certification, I think, but they still pay. The argument is that the standards cost a lot to compile etc but I still have a problem with standards that are effectively part of the law but are not freely available.

 

Public libraries are supposed to have them but I doubt most have them do and that they would be up to date.

 

 

 

 

Don't know if libraries have physical copies, but there may be access via their computer?? if so download and save to a memory stick


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