Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8
8956 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  # 1792645 31-May-2017 21:17
Send private message

gedc:

 

@wash  How do you manage to track just the ducted heatpump consumption ?  From the energy meters Ive had in the past they clip onto the main lead in the outside box and monitor total consumption. My heatpumps / ducted system isn't plug-in either so gets lumped in with all the other powered on items.

 

Thanks

 

 

you can clamp the individual circuit


327 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 1792656 31-May-2017 21:34
Send private message

Okay. So clamping the circuit / cable exiting the breaker box inside the garage instead of the mains lead into the consumption metre on the outside of the house.


 
 
 
 


8956 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  # 1792680 31-May-2017 22:00
Send private message

gedc:

 

Okay. So clamping the circuit / cable exiting the breaker box inside the garage instead of the mains lead into the consumption metre on the outside of the house.

 

 

yep, can clamp any cable you like to monitor.


22742 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1792686 31-May-2017 22:05
Send private message

You may need to open the breaker panel to do so, which technically is not something you are supposed to work on.





Richard rich.ms

327 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 1792691 31-May-2017 22:15
Send private message

All good. Having seen how tight it is in there I don't plan on digging around too much. Does it have to clamp the live only or can I locate the cable outside of the panel which also generally has the neutral and earth as well and clamp that.


22742 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1792696 31-May-2017 22:36
Send private message

Has to be the live or neutral only, otherwise they cancel each other out and you will get nothing.





Richard rich.ms

3885 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  # 1792698 31-May-2017 22:42

old3eyes:

 

PhantomNVD:

 

old3eyes:

 

On my last bill here in Morrinsville  via Mercury

 

30 days  Power 404 Kw  = $123.87.  Fixed line charge = $10.67 total $134.54

 

Gas Gas 39  days  = $11.28   Fixed line charge 44.10   Total  $55.38.

 

Total for power plus gas  = $ 189.92 after discount $175.25

 

I would never get gas installed in a new house  due to the robbing line charges.  We have a gas central heating and so called instant hot water.

 

 

 

 

But I have no line charges as I use 45KG bottles, and the local fuel garage that supplies us has no monthly fee at all. i pay $100/45kg's and have two bottles and an auto switch-over setup with free changes/delivery. I LOVE gas instant water and instant heat Hob and would never go back :)

 

 

We had two gas bottles at Tauranga for heating in the lounge and they cost a fortune over the winter.  Polled them out and put in a electric  Aircon system.  Way cheaper..

 

 

 

 

@old3eyes how many KW/Hr of gas did you use on that bill? Sure the extra line charges are annoying but having a really cheap per unit rate makes up for it. I would love to get Natural gas installed in my house. But unfortunately no gas pipes available in my area. Despite living in an urban part of Auckland.

 

As for gas heating, there are lots of gas fires out there that are only around 10% efficient. And gas heaters that are only around 60% efficient. So not surprisingly if you have one of them especially on LPG, It would be very expensive to run.

 

Myself - I still have LPG. Which I use for cooking (both hobs and oven) and an unflued heater that connects to a bayonet point so it also uses the gas from the 45KG bottles. It meant that I could go on a peak / offpeak price plan with Flick Electric. To get the really cheap offpeak power, And then the LPG covers the main peak time loads that would otherwise have to be from electricity. (Average electricity on an "anytime" plan with Flick electric were pretty much the same as LPG). I only use the unflued LPG heater if I want heat during peak times. Otherwise electric heaters or my waste oil boiler. Because my house is quite draughty, I don't get any condensation problems from the unflued gas heater.






 
 
 
 


8227 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  # 1792887 1-Jun-2017 09:01
Send private message

Aredwood:

 

old3eyes:

 

PhantomNVD:

 

old3eyes:

 

On my last bill here in Morrinsville  via Mercury

 

30 days  Power 404 Kw  = $123.87.  Fixed line charge = $10.67 total $134.54

 

Gas Gas 39  days  = $11.28   Fixed line charge 44.10   Total  $55.38.

 

Total for power plus gas  = $ 189.92 after discount $175.25

 

I would never get gas installed in a new house  due to the robbing line charges.  We have a gas central heating and so called instant hot water.

 

 

 

 

But I have no line charges as I use 45KG bottles, and the local fuel garage that supplies us has no monthly fee at all. i pay $100/45kg's and have two bottles and an auto switch-over setup with free changes/delivery. I LOVE gas instant water and instant heat Hob and would never go back :)

 

 

We had two gas bottles at Tauranga for heating in the lounge and they cost a fortune over the winter.  Polled them out and put in a electric  Aircon system.  Way cheaper..

 

 

 

 

@old3eyes how many KW/Hr of gas did you use on that bill? Sure the extra line charges are annoying but having a really cheap per unit rate makes up for it. I would love to get Natural gas installed in my house. But unfortunately no gas pipes available in my area. Despite living in an urban part of Auckland.

 

As for gas heating, there are lots of gas fires out there that are only around 10% efficient. And gas heaters that are only around 60% efficient. So not surprisingly if you have one of them especially on LPG, It would be very expensive to run.

 

Myself - I still have LPG. Which I use for cooking (both hobs and oven) and an unflued heater that connects to a bayonet point so it also uses the gas from the 45KG bottles. It meant that I could go on a peak / offpeak price plan with Flick Electric. To get the really cheap offpeak power, And then the LPG covers the main peak time loads that would otherwise have to be from electricity. (Average electricity on an "anytime" plan with Flick electric were pretty much the same as LPG). I only use the unflued LPG heater if I want heat during peak times. Otherwise electric heaters or my waste oil boiler. Because my house is quite draughty, I don't get any condensation problems from the unflued gas heater.

 

 

If you're referring to the current gas bill here in Morrinsville  124kWh @ 9.10c / kWh. = $11.28.  As the gas central heating  is now being used I suspect it will be way over twice that next meter read bill.





Regards,

Old3eyes


322 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 1792948 1-Jun-2017 10:21
Send private message

I just pulled out a report (April'16 to April'17) from mercury.

 

4 adults, Electric Hot water cylinder, electric stove, Fridge & stuff + on standard user plan, Auckland

 

Annual usage was approx 6000 kwh.

 

Thinking to move to low user plan (not sure of what difference will that make), now that we are only 3 people and smaller house (relocated)





I Eat Dumbbells for Breakfast


1773 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1793255 1-Jun-2017 17:21
3 people support this post
Send private message

mdooher:

 

We average 1GWh per month

 

 

 

 

Wow !!!! That's impressive - does the whole neighbourhood black-out when you turn on the lights and heating ?

 

Do you run your own private reactor, or have special feed tariffs ?

 

 

 

 





My thoughts are no longer my own and is probably representative of our media-controlled government


57 posts

Master Geek


  # 1793558 2-Jun-2017 11:11
Send private message

gedc:

 

@wash  How do you manage to track just the ducted heatpump consumption ?  From the energy meters Ive had in the past they clip onto the main lead in the outside box and monitor total consumption. My heatpumps / ducted system isn't plug-in either so gets lumped in with all the other powered on items.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

Nothing as clever as using a meter. The ducted heatpump keeps track of and graphs its estimated power usage.




1549 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1793889 2-Jun-2017 18:46
Send private message

So been using my Efergy Ego to monitor the dryer and dishwasher (just for 1 cycle).

 

  • Tuesday - 2.97kwh (1 dryer cycle and 1 dishwasher cycle)
  • Wednesday - 3.70kwh (2 dryer cycles)
  • Thursday - 1.78kwh (1 dryer cycle)

So I'd say that the dryer and dishwasher would add around 3-5kwh per day depending on how many cycles of each we use.

 

Today I turned off the hot water at the switch board for 6 hours so will see (once the hourly data comes through) whether this is causing excessive usage.


1014 posts

Uber Geek
Inactive user


  # 1794189 3-Jun-2017 12:46
Send private message

KillerHulk:

 

I just pulled out a report (April'16 to April'17) from Mercury.

 

4 adults, Electric Hot water cylinder, electric stove, Fridge & stuff + on standard user plan, Auckland

 

Annual usage was approx 6000 kwh.

 

Thinking to move to low user plan (not sure of what difference will that make), now that we are only 3 people and smaller house (relocated)

 

 

No need, @KillerHulk. they have the Annual Price Plan Review where if you could be on a plan better suited to your use, they'll automatically switch you to it. Under 8000kWh/year you're financially better off on a low user plan.


468 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 1794289 3-Jun-2017 18:07
Send private message

SepticSceptic:

mdooher:


We average 1GWh per month


 



Wow !!!! That's impressive - does the whole neighbourhood black-out when you turn on the lights and heating ?


Do you run your own private reactor, or have special feed tariffs ?


 


 

I think he's charging up his DE Lorean

7 posts

Wannabe Geek


  # 1794559 4-Jun-2017 14:57
Send private message

Single household, heating and cooking on natural gas. Living in the Netherlands.
Trying to lower my carbon footprint
Five years ago i had a energy consumption of 2560 kWh and about 1500 m3 gas
Too much. And I started to lower my energy consumption

Last 12 months I used 760 kwh electricity and 770 m3 gas
Last month It was 52 kWh electricity and 14.5 m3 gas
This time of the year (summer) I use 11.5 - 12.3 kWh a week,

The average for a single household here in the Netherlands is 1700 - 1800 kWh
So I have a low energy consumption and a low carbon footprint.
I need that for my credibility when I talk too much about climate change.



1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Intel introduces cryogenic control chip to enable quantum computers
Posted 10-Dec-2019 21:32


Vodafone 5G service live in four cities
Posted 10-Dec-2019 08:30


Samsung Galaxy Fold now available in New Zealand
Posted 6-Dec-2019 00:01


NZ company oDocs awarded US$ 100,000 Dubai World Expo grant
Posted 5-Dec-2019 16:00


New Zealand Rugby Selects AWS-Powered Analytics for Deeper Game Insights
Posted 5-Dec-2019 11:33


IMAGR and Farro bring checkout-less supermarket shopping to New Zealand
Posted 5-Dec-2019 09:07


Wellington Airport becomes first 5G connected airport in the country
Posted 3-Dec-2019 08:42


MetService secures Al Jazeera as a new weather client
Posted 28-Nov-2019 09:40


NZ a top 10 connected nation with stage one of ultra-fast broadband roll-out completed
Posted 24-Nov-2019 14:15


Microsoft Translator understands te reo Māori
Posted 22-Nov-2019 08:46


Chorus to launch Hyperfibre service
Posted 18-Nov-2019 15:00


Microsoft launches first Experience Center worldwide for Asia Pacific in Singapore
Posted 13-Nov-2019 13:08


Disney+ comes to LG Smart TVs
Posted 13-Nov-2019 12:55


Spark launches new wireless broadband "Unplan Metro"
Posted 11-Nov-2019 08:19


Malwarebytes overhauls flagship product with new UI, faster engine and lighter footprint
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:48



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.