Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




167 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 56


Topic # 227513 9-Jan-2018 22:03
Send private message quote this post


Been doing a bit of building over the holidays, now after a quick bit of advice.



Click to see full size

Click to see full size

The doors open outwards. They don't butt up against anything when closed except the sides of the frame - nothing top or bottom.

I'm after a suggestion on how to lock the doors please - a hasp and staple is the current thought, but seems a bit rough. Has anyone got any ideas please?

Thanks in advance.

Create new topic
4 posts

Wannabe Geek


  Reply # 1933211 9-Jan-2018 22:13
Send private message quote this post

Have a similar problem. I thought about something like a gate bar but made of timber.

 

See here.


415 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 76

Subscriber

  Reply # 1933222 9-Jan-2018 22:35
Send private message quote this post

The hasp and staple sounds like a good idea to me. Probably with a bolt on the inside of one door up to the timber above, to make them more solid when locked.

 
 
 
 


432 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 174


  Reply # 1933272 10-Jan-2018 00:54
3 people support this post
Send private message quote this post

I spose another option is a lockable bolt upwards on each door.

 

You could pour a small block in the ground for downward bolts too.

 

If you have upward and downward bolts then the next step in complexity is a linkage to operate them both at the same time using the same lever/handle.


neb

440 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 58

Subscriber

  Reply # 1933275 10-Jan-2018 02:13
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Ge0rge:
I'm after a suggestion on how to lock the doors please - a hasp and staple is the current thought, but seems a bit rough. Has anyone got any ideas please?

 

 

Hodor?

2884 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1504

Subscriber

  Reply # 1933378 10-Jan-2018 09:35
Send private message quote this post

neb:
Ge0rge:
I'm after a suggestion on how to lock the doors please - a hasp and staple is the current thought, but seems a bit rough. Has anyone got any ideas please?
Hodor?

 

I just had to explain to the colleague I share an office with why I lost my sh*t laughing out loud.





Information wants to be free. The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

 

Thinking about signing up to BigPipe? Get $20 credit with my referral link.


2777 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 584


  Reply # 1935372 10-Jan-2018 10:19
2 people support this post
Send private message quote this post

elpenguino:

 

I spose another option is a lockable bolt upwards on each door.

 

 

Or depending on whether you often have both leaves open, you could have an upwards bolt on the inside of the less used leaf, while the other has a simple horizontal bolt, or shackle to the other ( now more fixed) side..


392 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 120


  Reply # 1935373 10-Jan-2018 10:20
quote this post

Because there is no centre support, I can only think of two options;

 

Strong bar right across both doors to frame on each side.

 

Bolt up into the top frame and another down into the ground.

 

Are these the main access into the building?


432 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 174


  Reply # 1935479 10-Jan-2018 12:34
Send private message quote this post

wellygary:

elpenguino:


I spose another option is a lockable bolt upwards on each door.



Or depending on whether you often have both leaves open, you could have an upwards bolt on the inside of the less used leaf, while the other has a simple horizontal bolt, or shackle to the other ( now more fixed) side..



Good point. Using such a scheme means you could use a house type catch and lock so the more opened door could be opened from inside and out.



167 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 56


  Reply # 1935983 11-Jan-2018 08:54
Send private message quote this post

k1w1k1d:

Because there is no centre support, I can only think of two options;


Strong bar right across both doors to frame on each side.


Bolt up into the top frame and another down into the ground.


Are these the main access into the building?



It's a two-bay pole shed, with a quad, small tractor and a few other garden type implements in there. There are a second set of identical doors to the side of those in the pictures so either set can be used to get into the shed, but otherwise no walk door.

Thanks for all the advice - I'm thinking that one side could be secured with a bar across the centre on the inside, operable only from the inside. My wife kindly brought a heavy duty hasp and staple from mitre 10 yesterday, which has confirmed that this won't work very well - it was the largest they had but due to the gap between the doors it won't work effectively at all. I think that the house lock idea will fall down here for the same reason.

However securing one door top and bottom with a bolt going across to the other might just be the answer.


651 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 122


  Reply # 1936016 11-Jan-2018 09:34
Send private message quote this post

If it is just a utility shed what is wrong with a chain and padlock?



167 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 56


  Reply # 1936048 11-Jan-2018 10:05
Send private message quote this post

blackjack17: If it is just a utility shed what is wrong with a chain and padlock?


Technically nothing. In reality though, the WAF is far too low.

2777 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 584


  Reply # 1936072 11-Jan-2018 10:52
Send private message quote this post

Just looking at you photos again,  the doors appear to only open outward?

 

So I think you need some sort of "stopper" on the frame at the top of the doors to stop them being pushed inward (If they are pushed inward the door will hit the posts holding the hinges?  and will stress the hinges or the door)

 

A 2*4 or similar attached to the top beam would do the job

 

 




167 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 56


  Reply # 1936107 11-Jan-2018 11:41
Send private message quote this post

Yes, they only open outwards. Currently the upright 4x2 at the hinge side contacts the pole when the door closes - I can see what you mean by stressing the hinges as I lean on it.

Click to see full size

Might need a couple of joist hangers to attach a piece of 4x2 at the top that both doors can butt up against perhaps?

651 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 122


  Reply # 1936147 11-Jan-2018 12:09
Send private message quote this post
392 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 120


  Reply # 1936212 11-Jan-2018 13:21
quote this post

Suggest a board across the top for both doors to butt up to.

 

Secure one door with a bolt at the top and bottom.You will need to make something for the bottom bolt to go into. Possibly a piece of steel channel in concrete or a pipe driven into the ground. Channel is easy to keep clean, but pipe can be a pain to keep dirt out of though. Will need to be flush with the ground to prevent it becoming a tripping hazard.

 

Put a board down the rear of the secured door, overlapping its edge, for the other one to butt up against.

 

Then bolt a strong hasp and staple to the doors. Could also put another one near the ground to make more secure?


Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

New Zealand hits peak broadband data
Posted 18-Jan-2018 12:21


Amazon Echo devices coming to New Zealand early February 2018
Posted 18-Jan-2018 10:53


$3.74 million for new electric vehicles in New Zealand
Posted 17-Jan-2018 11:27


Nova 2i: Value, not excitement from Huawei
Posted 17-Jan-2018 09:02


Less news in Facebook News Feed revamp
Posted 15-Jan-2018 13:15


Australian Government contract awarded to Datacom Connect
Posted 11-Jan-2018 08:37


Why New Zealand needs a chief technology officer
Posted 6-Jan-2018 13:59


Amazon release Silk Browser and Firefox for Fire TV
Posted 21-Dec-2017 13:42


New Chief Technology Officer role created
Posted 19-Dec-2017 22:18


All I want for Christmas is a new EV
Posted 19-Dec-2017 19:54


How clever is this: AI will create 2.3 million jobs by 2020
Posted 19-Dec-2017 19:52


NOW to deploy SD-WAN to regional councils
Posted 19-Dec-2017 19:46


Mobile market competition issues ComCom should watch
Posted 18-Dec-2017 10:52


New Zealand government to create digital advisory group
Posted 16-Dec-2017 08:47


Australia datum changes means whole country moving 1.8 metres north-east
Posted 16-Dec-2017 08:39



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.