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Topic # 228773 22-Jan-2018 10:12
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Hey everyone, 

 

I am in the process of building a deck and am needing all the hardware to be stainless steel. Anyhow I thought I would post a public service announcement and just say "damn most retailers are having a laugh". 

 

I have been buying stainless bolts, nails, nuts, washers, pile fixings, etc and every time the eye watering price through the usual suspects (Placemakers, Mitre10, Bunnings, etc) has left me a little bewildered. Not that I have been buying through them, because I found Anzor (www.anzor.co.nz) to be generally about 50% cheaper than those other places. How I have no idea (same products, same quality stainless, even same brands), but I am happy to continue ordering through Anzor. 

 

So anyhow, just a headsup to those out there - don't buy though Mitre10, Bunnings, Placemakers etc - because they will bleed you dry for no apparent need. Usual story - let the buyer beware - shop around. 

 

Cheers


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  Reply # 1944708 22-Jan-2018 12:13
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My local ITM isn't too bad. A lot of their bolts are 304 vs the Bunnings 316 so can't make direct comparisons but 304 satisfies Code and cosmetics mostly don't count. There's a couple of TM suppliers as well.

A builder mentioned using 12mm studding cut to length but I haven't priced that yet.

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  Reply # 1944730 22-Jan-2018 12:59
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They are a trade supplier and sell on a trade less discount strategy, over the counter they are selling to you at their list trade and laughing at the huge margin they are making, you as a consumer are reveling in the discount you are getting compared to a marked up retail price strategy, win win everyone is happy!!


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1946508 25-Jan-2018 11:42
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We have 316 and 304 on out deck (in a coastal zone) the 316 is spotless but there is surface rust on the 304.

 

The requirement for S/S is ridiculous.  Galv bolts last decades on wharves ...





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  Reply # 1946658 25-Jan-2018 15:08
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No arguments here...whenever I was buying stuff and seeing the price differential between stainless and galv a little piece of me died inside :(

 

I also thought that there was concerns about the stuff in treated timber eating away the galv hardware too (ie not just salt spray)...but still :|


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  Reply # 1946663 25-Jan-2018 15:10
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That's just the way retail works. Big ticket items have a small markup as a percentage, small value items usually have a large markup.


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  Reply # 1946666 25-Jan-2018 15:11
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MikeAqua:

 

The requirement for S/S is ridiculous.  Galv bolts last decades on wharves ...

 

 

We'll have none of your common sense clouding discussions around stainless steel fasteners in coastal zones, thank you very much!





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  Reply # 1946675 25-Jan-2018 15:17
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cadman:

 

MikeAqua:

 

The requirement for S/S is ridiculous.  Galv bolts last decades on wharves ...

 

 

We'll have none of your common sense clouding discussions around stainless steel fasteners in coastal zones, thank you very much!

 

 

I'm so sorry. I withdraw and apologise, lol.





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  Reply # 1946679 25-Jan-2018 15:21
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E3xtc:

 

I also thought that there was concerns about the stuff in treated timber eating away the galv hardware too (ie not just salt spray)...but still :|

 

 

Wharves are usually built with H6 treated timber.





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  Reply # 1946719 25-Jan-2018 15:40
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MikeAqua:

 

E3xtc:

 

I also thought that there was concerns about the stuff in treated timber eating away the galv hardware too (ie not just salt spray)...but still :|

 

 

Wharves are usually built with H6 treated timber.

 

 

And for reference.





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  Reply # 1946752 25-Jan-2018 16:12
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When I saw the subject, my first thought was Anzor... also I think there is a place called the bolt shop that isn't too bad either


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  Reply # 1949528 31-Jan-2018 17:36
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I've had a couple of dealings with Anzor for bits and bobs for a boat - things like SS blind nuts, deck clips, etc.

 

Found the counter staff very helpful and informative, and nothing was too much trouble. Popular with tradies as well, as there was always half a dozen tradies milling around ordering stuff.

 

Grabbed a couple of photos of their wall charts for future reference - web pages are too specific when looking for a particular item.

 

"Couple of countersunk clippy D ring thingy that I can latch a carabiner on to - the carabiner is connected to a SS wire and crimped so it can hook onto a fishing rod when hauling in a big fish, and I need a wee rest .... "

 

"Here we are sir - you need this, that, a couple of these, and here's a couple of meters of SS wire for free". "And make sure the D ring clippy thingy is mounted thru the deck, otherwise it's likely to pull out  - you'll be needing a bunch of SS bolts, washers and captive nuts".

 

Awesome ...

 

 





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