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  Reply # 2000048 20-Apr-2018 21:58
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Which means we will probably just cover it up. I think the government should setup as asbestos removal service and charge a reasonable amount eg. $200 per sqm then people would remove it.




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  Reply # 2000050 20-Apr-2018 22:24
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are you in Auckland?  If so I can ask around.




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  Reply # 2000051 20-Apr-2018 22:30
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We are actually in Wellington, but if you could ask around it would be good.

Kitchen is 9m2
Lino is 6m2 (lino didn't go under cabinets)
Would be an empty room as the joiner would remove all the cabinetry prior to lifting the floor.
Kitchen connects directly to short hall way entrance so would be easy to tent up.




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  Reply # 2000077 20-Apr-2018 23:55
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Part of the problem is that the law changed fairly recently, which makes it really expensive to now remove. Many houses have it somewhere, if you have an older house with soffits, then it is likely to have it. But that doesn't mean it is a problem, as soffits for example should last for the life of the building.

 

 

 

Considering a house costs around $2000 / sqm to build. $1000 sqm to remove sounds very high.




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  Reply # 2000079 21-Apr-2018 00:12
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The guy that quoted for sanding the floor and polishing, recommend that i remove it myself with a hired steamer box and then bag it up and throw it in the regular trash :P




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  Reply # 2000093 21-Apr-2018 02:06
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kiwijunglist: The guy that quoted for sanding the floor and polishing, recommend that i remove it myself with a hired steamer box and then bag it up and throw it in the regular trash :P

 

While what he said is laughable, you can remove it yourself and wrap it in plastic. You get a certificate to dump and a delievery time from the tip, it is not actually very costly.

 

The government provides information on how to suit up and how to safely dispose of it.  If the correct precautions are taken its a pretty straight forward operation.  What is more likely to be the issue is sanding the actual floor once the asbestos lino is gone. with left over glues.

 

Has it been installed on backer board that can just pry up?  If you can you could cut the lino along those board lines and remove the boards whole, no sanding on the backing mean asbestos is literally picked up and taken out and disposed of legally as above.




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  Reply # 2000094 21-Apr-2018 02:39
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The layering is

1. Lino

2. Some kind of chip board (about 4mm thick, yellowish colour, bit sure if the technical term)

3. This grey 2mm thick sheet. (I assume this is asbestos). It's bendable and lifted/peeled off the rimu fairly easily with some hot steam and didn't seem to leave any residue behind).

4. Rimu floorboards.


The grey layer didn't seem to be adhered much to the "chip board" if at all, and after applying the heat it didn't seem to be stuck to the rimu either. I applied the hear through all 3 layers using a thick wet cloth that i disposed of and the iron.




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  Reply # 2000095 21-Apr-2018 02:45
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Here is a photo i took at the time.


Kitchen Lino:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16F5hvrJPThReeEmYtaHUJbR-Hk3i6O1F/view?usp=drivesdk

It was damped with water and I've since covered it up with plastic and some tape.

Let me know if the photo doesn't work




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  Reply # 2000096 21-Apr-2018 02:49
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This is the laundry lino.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tMGavZIz8t54CgQItZc2tHL2oOBTZTw4/view?usp=drivesdk


It looks a lot more dangerous to remove as it's fairly friable. This will probably just be sealed up i think unless i get a reasonable quote to remove it professionally.




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  Reply # 2000102 21-Apr-2018 06:28
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What did you actually have tested, the lino or the grey material?

Your dimension of 2mm for the grey stuff has me puzzled. Any chance that it is just cardboard?

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  Reply # 2000134 21-Apr-2018 08:20
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Since 4th of April, rules have changed.

Quote:
Does your business work on buildings constructed before the late 1990s? Chances are you�re removing material with asbestos in it. Your business will require an asbestos removal licence from 4 April 2016 in order to remove:any amount of friable asbestos, ormore than 10m2 of non-friable asbestos over the course of the project for the site.This includes removal of asbestos or asbestos containing materials in building, plumbing, flooring, electrical, demolition or roofing work.

From: https://www.nzism.org/info/news/getting-ready-for-asbestos-regulations-1/



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  Reply # 2000275 21-Apr-2018 12:40
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Bung: What did you actually have tested, the lino or the grey material?

Your dimension of 2mm for the grey stuff has me puzzled. Any chance that it is just cardboard?

 

 

 

I just sent all 3x layers in together as one sample.  I might need to see if I can phone the lab to ask them.

 

There are two photos above, 1x kitchen, 1x laundry.





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  Reply # 2000280 21-Apr-2018 12:45
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Kitchen:

 

 

Laundry:

 





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  Reply # 2000307 21-Apr-2018 14:45
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That bottom grey layer might just be old lino that has been covered over.

I vote get it removed. As in 20 years time or so, your nice new floor will be looking tired. And someone will want to replace it.

Is it possible to use a wet removal method? As a way of avoiding the fibres getting into the air.







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  Reply # 2000314 21-Apr-2018 15:11
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I doubt the bottom layer is old lino, it has no pattern to it.

 

What has been suggested to me by a flooring person (who has a somewhat cavalier attitude as to how to expose the asbestos in the regular rubbish).

 

Get everything very wet.
Use a steamer from a higher place to steam the floor and peel it off.
Careful put in rubbish bags and take to the dump.

 

I was wondering about doing the above, but wearing a P2 mask and disposable overalls and use plastic sheeting on the walls and an extra layer over each door, then removing the plastic sheeting, wiping everything down, then running the hepa filter in the room for a day or so.

 

Wife said she would divorce me if i do it myself and was freaking out because her dad is dying of lung cancer.





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