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tripper1000
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  #2040269 19-Jun-2018 10:02
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Wiggum: Big difference between Smoking Meth vs Cooking Meth.

 

If your house has been used as a P Lab then there is still reason for the hysteria. Personally I would not want to go and live in one. You ever watch Breaking Bad?

 

 

To be clear I mean smoking meth contamination hysteria. I'm in no doubt a meth cookhouse will make you sick.


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  #2040926 20-Jun-2018 10:57
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tripper1000:

 

Wiggum: Big difference between Smoking Meth vs Cooking Meth.

 

If your house has been used as a P Lab then there is still reason for the hysteria. Personally I would not want to go and live in one. You ever watch Breaking Bad?

 

 

To be clear I mean smoking meth contamination hysteria. I'm in no doubt a meth cookhouse will make you sick.

 

 

How do you tell the difference?


 
 
 
 


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  #2040952 20-Jun-2018 11:10
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UHD:

 

tripper1000:

 

Wiggum: Big difference between Smoking Meth vs Cooking Meth.

 

If your house has been used as a P Lab then there is still reason for the hysteria. Personally I would not want to go and live in one. You ever watch Breaking Bad?

 

 

To be clear I mean smoking meth contamination hysteria. I'm in no doubt a meth cookhouse will make you sick.

 

 

How do you tell the difference?

 

 

Exactly. And thats what turns this discussion on its head. 


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  #2040984 20-Jun-2018 11:57
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From Landords.co.nz website:

 

A property used for meth manufacturing will present a dangerous level of contamination.

 

But in a property where meth usage alone has occurred there will be significantly lower levels of contamination.

 

National Poisons Centre toxicologist Dr Leo Schep told the Science Media Centre that the two situations pose separate issues.

He said properties where past tenants had used meth might have some evidence of low concentrations on surfaces, but minimal risks of toxicity.

 

“The risks would be similar for people who live in a house that had previous dwellers who smoked cigarettes or marijuana.

 

“They will have exposure to these drugs, but the concentrations will not sufficiently high enough to cause either psychoactive or toxic effects to people who may have had inadvertent, and brief, dermal contact with these surfaces.”





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  #2040995 20-Jun-2018 12:10
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How much of a problem are "clan labs" in houses now?  Does anybody have recent data?

 

As I understand it, China has (finally) cracked down hard on sales of "Contac NT" (pseudoephedrine made in China by Glaxo Smith Kline).  There used to be a lot of busts at NZ borders of large quantities - but we don't hear about that much any more.  There are other ways to make methamphetamine, but restrictions on the sales of intermediates etc and technical difficulty mean that it's probably too hard.  AFAIK, users - if they could still get pseudoephedrine tablets - can make small batches of low quality meth in a plastic bottle using a few other ingredients, unsafe but it's not an industrial scale operation.

 

Most of the meth busts these days seem to be of high purity imported finished product.  It's coming to NZ from Mexico, from Canada, rumours are that it's being manufactured in bulk in N Korea.  It's probably much easier to avoid detection by importing the finished product - if you can get it.  And apparently they can get it.


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  #2040998 20-Jun-2018 12:18
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tripper1000:
Wiggum: Big difference between Smoking Meth vs Cooking Meth. If your house has been used as a P Lab then there is still reason for the hysteria. Personally I would not want to go and live in one. You ever watch Breaking Bad?

 

To be clear I mean smoking meth contamination hysteria. I'm in no doubt a meth cookhouse will make you sick.

 

How do you tell the difference?

 

A mates rental got tangled up in this hysteria, costing about $30k. From memory, the contamination levels where 20 (whatever the units of contamination are) and the Lab reported that this was likely from consumption, not production. Apparently cook houses will return readings closer to the 200 mark. Happy to be corrected/clarified as that is 2nd hand info.


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