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nickb800
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  #2052765 10-Jul-2018 15:29
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mattwnz:

 

Flashings should always overlap over one another. Think about how feathers on a bird work.  They should never rely on  silicon as the primary flashing method.

 

 

Surely you don't work in the building industry, what with that attitude


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  #2052766 10-Jul-2018 15:30
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I was viewing it from the other way and thought the water was going in the opposite direction ! 


 
 
 
 


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  #2055796 13-Jul-2018 14:40
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We've got 3 Velux skylights in our new build (2 in the kitchen similar to your render, and one in the ensuite), and they're perfectly fine.  Velux ones come with a flashing kit, and other than a bit of noise from cooling/contraction on cold nights they're doing an amazing job - can post some pics later if you want to see how they look in the flesh.


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  #2055809 13-Jul-2018 14:50
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nickb800:

 

mattwnz:

 

Flashings should always overlap over one another. Think about how feathers on a bird work.  They should never rely on  silicon as the primary flashing method.

 

 

Surely you don't work in the building industry, what with that attitude

 

 

What do you mean? So are you saying silicon should be relied on as a primary flashing method??? E2/AS1 shows how things should be flashed along with minimum laps. 


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  #2055816 13-Jul-2018 14:59
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I think it was meant in jest, implying that while your approach is robust, others in the building industry are not always so!

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#2055852 13-Jul-2018 15:03
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froob: I think it was meant in jest, implying that while you’re approach is robust, others in the building industry are not always so!

 

 

 

Cheers. Unfortunately it isn't easy to convey jest and sarcasm etc in writing, without perhaps emojis tongue-out


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  #2055867 13-Jul-2018 15:30
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nofam:

 

We've got 3 Velux skylights in our new build (2 in the kitchen similar to your render, and one in the ensuite), and they're perfectly fine.  Velux ones come with a flashing kit, and other than a bit of noise from cooling/contraction on cold nights they're doing an amazing job - can post some pics later if you want to see how they look in the flesh.

 

 

 

 

Yes please!!


 
 
 
 


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  #2055887 13-Jul-2018 16:12
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Insanekiwi:

 

nofam:

 

We've got 3 Velux skylights in our new build (2 in the kitchen similar to your render, and one in the ensuite), and they're perfectly fine.  Velux ones come with a flashing kit, and other than a bit of noise from cooling/contraction on cold nights they're doing an amazing job - can post some pics later if you want to see how they look in the flesh.

 

 

 

 

Yes please!!

 

 

 

 

This is the only semi-decent image of the kitchen/dining skylights I have, taken when we were still moving in, but they give you a sense of how much light you get.  We up-sized the skylights on advice from the builder (these two are 780 x 1400, one in the ensuite is 780 x 1180), as depending on the pitch of your roof, the 'chimney' created in the gib does reduce a bit of the light, but you can see in the picture the amount of light coming straight in, and bouncing off the walls to the left.  This picture was taken around 4:15pm in November, so early-morning and midday you get a heap of diffuse light.

 

 

 


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  #2055896 13-Jul-2018 16:30
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nofam:

 

Insanekiwi:

 

nofam:

 

We've got 3 Velux skylights in our new build (2 in the kitchen similar to your render, and one in the ensuite), and they're perfectly fine.  Velux ones come with a flashing kit, and other than a bit of noise from cooling/contraction on cold nights they're doing an amazing job - can post some pics later if you want to see how they look in the flesh.

 

 

 

 

Yes please!!

 

 

 

 

This is the only semi-decent image of the kitchen/dining skylights I have, taken when we were still moving in, but they give you a sense of how much light you get.  We up-sized the skylights on advice from the builder (these two are 780 x 1400, one in the ensuite is 780 x 1180), as depending on the pitch of your roof, the 'chimney' created in the gib does reduce a bit of the light, but you can see in the picture the amount of light coming straight in, and bouncing off the walls to the left.  This picture was taken around 4:15pm in November, so early-morning and midday you get a heap of diffuse light.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Despite the number of windows you have in the kitchen, the skylights make a massive difference! Well done. I am glad I am sticking to it. Our 'chimney' is about 1.5-1.6 metre high so the direct light may be even less. Our windows are facing west so should not have any large amount of direct light as the sun will be be much lower in angle. Thank you for the photo! It looks great!


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Insanekiwi:

 

nofam:

 

Insanekiwi:

 

nofam:

 

We've got 3 Velux skylights in our new build (2 in the kitchen similar to your render, and one in the ensuite), and they're perfectly fine.  Velux ones come with a flashing kit, and other than a bit of noise from cooling/contraction on cold nights they're doing an amazing job - can post some pics later if you want to see how they look in the flesh.

 

 

 

 

Yes please!!

 

 

 

 

This is the only semi-decent image of the kitchen/dining skylights I have, taken when we were still moving in, but they give you a sense of how much light you get.  We up-sized the skylights on advice from the builder (these two are 780 x 1400, one in the ensuite is 780 x 1180), as depending on the pitch of your roof, the 'chimney' created in the gib does reduce a bit of the light, but you can see in the picture the amount of light coming straight in, and bouncing off the walls to the left.  This picture was taken around 4:15pm in November, so early-morning and midday you get a heap of diffuse light.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Despite the number of windows you have in the kitchen, the skylights make a massive difference! Well done. I am glad I am sticking to it. Our 'chimney' is about 1.5-1.6 metre high so the direct light may be even less. Our windows are facing west so should not have any large amount of direct light as the sun will be be much lower in angle. Thank you for the photo! It looks great!

 

 

 

 

Yes, definitely stick to your guns - they're a great, low-cost way of getting really nice light into spaces.  Any other build-related questions, just sing out - happy to brain dump all the info I have in my head, as it's useless to me now we're in!!


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  #2055902 13-Jul-2018 16:48
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Looks great. Skylights can make such a huge difference to the sense of space in a kitchen.

 

Did you get the velux blackout blinds and autoopeners installed? My main issue when installing skylights is the interior space overheating in summer. Having them with autoopeners can also help cool the space in Summer, as you can use natural 'stack effect' ventilation, to vent hot air out through the skylights, and cool air then comes in though open windows, creating natural air movement.


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  #2055988 13-Jul-2018 21:34
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mattwnz:

 

Looks great. Skylights can make such a huge difference to the sense of space in a kitchen.

 

Did you get the velux blackout blinds and autoopeners installed? My main issue when installing skylights is the interior space overheating in summer. Having them with autoopeners can also help cool the space in Summer, as you can use natural 'stack effect' ventilation, to vent hot air out through the skylights, and cool air then comes in though open windows, creating natural air movement.

 

 

 

 

Good question - I did consider future-proofing the blinds by adding the necessary wiring, but decided the hand-cranked blinds would be ok if I needed to retro-fit them.  Not a fan of opening skylights due to the risk of leaving them open/leaks, and I'd already thought long and hard about cross-flow ventilation for that part of the house; under-floor heating, north-facing glass and skylights mean it can get pretty warm after being shut up all day whilst at work.

 

 

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  #2055997 13-Jul-2018 22:06
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Potential flashings/workmanship issues aside I won't install skylights due to the unavoidable moss/lichen build up that they attract. Massive PITA to clean regularly (I think some councils demand you use scaffolding and harnesses these days) and not really a reliable way to prevent it.

 

You should look at the light tube tech, it is pretty impressive but they may be too much light for an already well lit kitchen.


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UHD:

 

Potential flashings/workmanship issues aside I won't install skylights due to the unavoidable moss/lichen build up that they attract. Massive PITA to clean regularly (I think some councils demand you use scaffolding and harnesses these days) and not really a reliable way to prevent it.

 

You should look at the light tube tech, it is pretty impressive but they may be too much light for an already well lit kitchen.

 

 

Council doesn't care how you maintain your house. If you are doing it as part of a business then Worksafe have jurisdiction - hence paying someone to clean your roof may be expensive. Your right to wander up on your roof as a homeowner remains untouched


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  #2062720 26-Jul-2018 00:42
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nickb800:

 

 

 

Council doesn't care how you maintain your house. If you are doing it as part of a business then Worksafe have jurisdiction - hence paying someone to clean your roof may be expensive. Your right to wander up on your roof as a homeowner remains untouched

 

 

 

 

Although I wonder how long that will last, and I wonder if we will get a 'Homesafe' government department. 


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