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  Reply # 2109429 17-Oct-2018 10:25
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Mitre10 when I tried to get a trade account, they wanted to do a full out meeting with me, it was too much effort.  

 

Bunnings I just filled out a form online, and got one.  Guess where I buy all my stuff from :D


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  Reply # 2109451 17-Oct-2018 10:28
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Mitre10 also have different stuff and procedures at different branches because they are independantly owned, Some people seem to think that its a good thing, but I strongly disagree on that. Variable product range is the biggest one. So you will find some brands at some M10s and not others.





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  Reply # 2109454 17-Oct-2018 10:29
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You could go el-cheapo at The Warehouse - Mako Mitre Saw 1800W 250mm $179.00 no stand though/





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  Reply # 2109503 17-Oct-2018 10:43
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richms:

 

They are pretty much wise to that on the common brands and you will usually find that they already have the on shelf price reduced to a few cents below the other guys if there is a sale at the other one, and then neither of them will accept on shelf pricetags as an advertised price to go and match it the other way, despite on shelf price tags being covered by the advertising standards association as being advertising.

 

 

They also sell slightly different models of some products.  So it isn't the 'same' product.





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  Reply # 2109511 17-Oct-2018 10:48
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Yeah inconsistencies between Mitre10's are a pain - I have Mitre10 trade cards for different stores and even that's not enough. 

 

Also worth mentioning that if you have a big project (e.g. bathroom reno) coming up, it's worth popping into the trade office and asking to go on a higher level discount tier. This has worked for me at a couple of Mitre10s, but not sure how Bunnings PowerPass structures their discounts


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  Reply # 2109512 17-Oct-2018 10:48
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richms:

 

They are pretty much wise to that on the common brands and you will usually find that they already have the on shelf price reduced to a few cents below the other guys if there is a sale at the other one, and then neither of them will accept on shelf pricetags as an advertised price to go and match it the other way, despite on shelf price tags being covered by the advertising standards association as being advertising.

 

 

They also sell slightly different models of some products.  So it isn't the 'same' product.

 

 

they tried that on me, but I got them to beat it by 15% still.




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  Reply # 2109631 17-Oct-2018 12:25
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I think I'll end up going with the AEG 254mm 2000w model for around $600. The 6 year warranty is pretty appealing.
https://www.bunnings.co.nz/aeg-254mm-2000w-slide-compound-mitre-saw_p00239442
There's also a version with a wheeled stand included for $700.

 

The Ryobi is tempting as well, 4 year warranty, saw + stand for $400. 

 

Decisions decisions.


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  Reply # 2109670 17-Oct-2018 12:58
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I have a few Ryobi and AEG powertools. If money was no object, I would always skip Ryobi in favour of AEG (though if money were really no object, I'd probably be shopping for Metabo and Hilti...). In general, I've found AEG tools overall higher quality - better plastics and better feel in the hand. From watching AvE teardowns, it's likely the component parts are better quality too.

 

But for mitre saws at least, AEG is nearly twice the price of the Ryobi and they look _very_ similar. I looked at both carefully when I was buying and decided - for me - I couldn't justify the additional cost.

 

Whether the additional money is worth it depends (IMHO) how you're going to use it:

 

- Will the AEG cut faster than the Ryobi? Not in any measurable sense.

 

- Will the AEG cut cleaner than the Ryobi? No. Depends on the blade and how you use it, not the saw (albeit that the kit blade in the AEG might be better than the Ryobi).

 

- Is the AEG gruntier than the Ryobi? Officially no (both 2000W). Even if there were some practical differences, the biggest constraint will be the throat size, not the saw's power.

 

- Is the AEG more robust that the Ryobi? Yes. If I were dragging it in and out of a van to use on site every day, the AEG is likely a much better option. It also make it bigger and heavier though. If it sits on a workbench, not a problem, but if you have to put it away at the end of the day, might be a consideration.

 

- Can the AEG cut larger timber than the Ryobi? Yes, but not by very much (305/215mm vs 300/200mm).

 

- Is the AEG quicker to set up and zero? Yes, the AEG will be faster to set to the right angle accurately. If you were making *lots* of very precise cuts, this will make a big difference. Perhaps not so much for weekend warrior stuff or if you cut almost everything at 90 or 45 anyway.

 

So if I were a tradie constantly knocking about the tool, or relying on quick and accurate set up, AEG would probably be worth it. But my saw lives on a bench in a garage and while I do use it a lot compared to some of my other tools, it is measured in times per week not per hour.

 

For cordless tools, I do usually go for AEG. I knock them about more (and have the batteries). But for wired/bench tools, so far I've mostly gone Ryobi or the Toolshed.


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  Reply # 2109678 17-Oct-2018 13:17
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msreef:

I think I'll end up going with the AEG 254mm 2000w model for around $600. The 6 year warranty is pretty appealing.



The warranty has some fish hooks as they usually do. Any part like bearings or brushes that might wear out rather than break isn't covered. You are expected to have the tool serviced regularly at an AEG agent to check on "consumable" items. The warranty is voided by anyone else opening the tool.

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  Reply # 2109762 17-Oct-2018 14:04
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Bung: The warranty is voided by anyone else opening the tool.

 

I doubt that would hold up in the dispute tribunal, but IMO it's something which should also be specifically banned by consumer law as it's anti-competitive.

 

IIRC it's covered by court precedent in the US, where having a "non authorised" repair can't invalidate a warranty (obviously so long as the "repair" didn't cause or exacerbate the damage/claim).
Manufacturers of course use other tricks, making equipment "tamper proof" and/or only able to be serviced using proprietary tools, software etc.  That's still no reason not to legislate against invalidating warranty "right to repair" - as they'd do it anyway.


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  Reply # 2110086 17-Oct-2018 22:09
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msreef:

I think I'll end up going with the AEG 254mm 2000w model for around $600. The 6 year warranty is pretty appealing.
https://www.bunnings.co.nz/aeg-254mm-2000w-slide-compound-mitre-saw_p00239442
There's also a version with a wheeled stand included for $700.


The Ryobi is tempting as well, 4 year warranty, saw + stand for $400. 


Decisions decisions.



Bunnings often do the saw and universal stand for $649 as a package deal. I have the saw and it is fantastic. Check with the store to see if the deal is coming up again soon.

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  Reply # 2110203 18-Oct-2018 08:16
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I’ve had the Ryobi since late last year, good starter price saw, works well. I think it was that or the Black and Decker from Mitre 10.

Have found Bunnings good with any product issues, Mitre 10 ok but you can go through the wringer at times.

The Ryobi was supposed to have a fancy dust extractor system but it was useless as they all seem to be without a vacuum.



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  Reply # 2110683 18-Oct-2018 21:08
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Ended up getting the Bosch Blue GCM 8 SDE from Mitre 10.

 

https://www.bosch-pt.co.nz/nz/en/products/gcm-8-sde-0601B19240

 

Pretty nice little unit. Selling at Mitre 10 for $899, with a free Bosch stand. Bunnings have it for $799 inc stand. Mitre 10 gave me 15% off Bunnings price (similar stocked item at competitor) even though it's not a normally stocked item (special order only).

 

Ended up costing me $679 with the free stand included. Six year warranty. Spent more than what I initially wanted but am pretty happy with the purchase.


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  Reply # 2110741 19-Oct-2018 06:58
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I see nobody has mentioned these two great places....(somtimes a bargain can be found).....

 

https://www.thetoolshed.co.nz

 

https://www.topmaq.co.nz

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2110872 19-Oct-2018 10:52
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Goosey:

 

I see nobody has mentioned these two great places....(somtimes a bargain can be found).....

 

https://www.thetoolshed.co.nz

 

https://www.topmaq.co.nz

 

 

Wouldn't go near TopMaq after purchasing a trolley jack that required bleeding before first use (as per the enclosed instructions), then they refused to accept a warranty claim because the unit "had been opened".





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