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  Reply # 2192076 6-Mar-2019 12:15
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chevrolux: C'mon mate, do it yourself!

And just on the 'dont need a hearth' thing, is there just bare concrete where the fire will go?

Personally for me, hardest part was going through the roof. If that's already done, the rest is super easy
Just make sure you measure all the clearances around the fire exactly right- the council inspectors will check.

Edit: oh yea, and go get consent first too. Very easy

 

Definately considering trying to do it ourselves. Well technically the floor is compressed earth (eco house) however the installer said we could not need one.


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  Reply # 2192095 6-Mar-2019 12:33
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NectarBomb:

 

chevrolux: C'mon mate, do it yourself!

And just on the 'dont need a hearth' thing, is there just bare concrete where the fire will go?

Personally for me, hardest part was going through the roof. If that's already done, the rest is super easy
Just make sure you measure all the clearances around the fire exactly right- the council inspectors will check.

Edit: oh yea, and go get consent first too. Very easy

 

Definately considering trying to do it ourselves. Well technically the floor is compressed earth (eco house) however the installer said we could not need one.

 

 

Oh boy, an eco house, I can see the potential for a consenting nightmare depending on which particular jobsworth council you have.....


 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 2192109 6-Mar-2019 12:45
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wellygary:

 

NectarBomb:

 

chevrolux: C'mon mate, do it yourself!

And just on the 'dont need a hearth' thing, is there just bare concrete where the fire will go?

Personally for me, hardest part was going through the roof. If that's already done, the rest is super easy
Just make sure you measure all the clearances around the fire exactly right- the council inspectors will check.

Edit: oh yea, and go get consent first too. Very easy

 

Definately considering trying to do it ourselves. Well technically the floor is compressed earth (eco house) however the installer said we could not need one.

 

 

Oh boy, an eco house, I can see the potential for a consenting nightmare depending on which particular jobsworth council you have.....

 

 

 

 

Well the walls are made of straw...


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  Reply # 2192185 6-Mar-2019 13:55
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NectarBomb:

 

mattwnz:

 

You could buy the flue kit and parts yourself, and just get an installer to install it. We did this. Is this on a skillion or sloped ceiling, or is it an eco type flue, as I am wondering why you are using the dropbox. We were going to need a dropbox but the plumber who installed it instead was able to cut the flue on an angle. 

 

 

Yea the ceiling is sloped. We have been quoted for a dropbox however I have no idea what this is. What is it for?

 

 

 

 

I am not 100% sure, but I think it means you end up with this ugly box thing hanging down from the ceiling, where the outer casing of the flue above it which is flat sits in. Similar to this photo

 

http://fire4u.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Drop-box-cathedral-ceiling-flue-kit-with-custom-ceiling-plate.JPG-e1528941814838.jpg 

 

 

 

But my plumber cut the outer flue in the ceiling on an angle, eliminating the need for the dropbox, and the ugly drop box thing hanging down from  ceiling. So you just have a simple plate on the ceiling. Not exactly sure how i all works though, and you are best to talk to an installer on how they can do it. Our ceiling was on 10 degrees, but if your ceiling is more than that I am guessing it maybe more difficult. 


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  Reply # 2192567 6-Mar-2019 21:19
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NectarBomb:

 

The 2 next to some items means quantity of 2. So you have to double those items. Furthermore GST is then added at the end.

 

 

Yeah - well the total is $1977.61, if that doesn't include GST then that = $296.64, total including GST is 2274.75 - not the $2973.26 you stated.

 

I suggest you check it yourself if you're concerned about the cost of getting the logburner installed.

 

 


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  Reply # 2192713 6-Mar-2019 23:54
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NectarBomb:

Aredwood: It looks like they are quoting to replace the entire flue. Including the parts that are still on the roof. As the installer probably doesn't want to guarantee old parts.

Also have you got a consent? As my understanding is that you always need a consent to install a wood fire. Even if you are simply replacing an old fire.


Yea I think he wants to replace the entire thing which seems unnecessary.


Don't have consent yet, however it is my responsibly to get it. Once I have it he will come around and install it for that price.



The building code has minimum durability requirements for different parts of the building. The flue would probably have a min 15 year durability requirement. If the existing parts are already 25 years old, would they still be fine when they are 40 years old? Well you would need to prove to the council that they will still be fine at their current age + 15 years. Good luck trying to do that.

Is the installer willing to risk being personally liable for a house fire, just to save a few $ on some flue parts? Unlikely.

The new flue might be the type that uses outdoor air for cooling, instead of indoor air. This gives far better energy efficiency. As you dont have the equivalent of a big hole in your roof. Why would you try to avoid a big improvement in energy efficiency? Especially in an eco house.





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