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# 259765 21-Oct-2019 01:06
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Looking like their power shouts are not regular.

 

The last one that I can see was in May.


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  # 2341162 21-Oct-2019 07:27
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We found them a bit of a non event, so not overly worried if they never have any more.


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  # 2341173 21-Oct-2019 08:20
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I've not had one for a long time either, I did query this and apparently you get "picked" to receive one


 
 
 
 


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  # 2341176 21-Oct-2019 08:34
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Finally have had enough of Genesis. They recently advised us of a fairly hefty increase in gas price starting next month. Power Shouts have never been a meaningful thing for me either - it’s a fake marketing idea. I’d rather have a permanent decrease in pricing, even if only a small one. It’s like petrol discounting - just confuses the real pricing.

 

After only half-heartedly looking at switching elcos in the past, I’m going to do it properly this week and will move from them if there’s even only a small advantage.





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eracode:

 

Finally have had enough of Genesis. They recently advised us of a fairly hefty increase in gas price starting next month. Power Shouts have never been a meaningful thing for me either - it’s a fake marketing idea. I’d rather have a permanent decrease in pricing, even if only a small one. It’s like petrol discounting - just confuses the real pricing.

 

After only half-heartedly looking at switching elcos in the past, I’m going to do it properly this week and will move from them if there’s even only a small advantage.

 

 

If you are out of contract then try changing power providers, you will get a call from their retention team who tend entice you to stay with a pretty sharp pricing offer.


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  # 2341235 21-Oct-2019 10:15
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Im with EK, one free hour per day, rates seem very good (they don't have a day/night rate though), 10% bonus if you pay in advance on CC

 

I dont get the power shout. You cant cook 8 roasts, or do 8 loads of washing, etc. EK free hour is daily so you can make good use of it


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  # 2341240 21-Oct-2019 10:28
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DjShadow:

 

eracode:

 

Finally have had enough of Genesis. They recently advised us of a fairly hefty increase in gas price starting next month. Power Shouts have never been a meaningful thing for me either - it’s a fake marketing idea. I’d rather have a permanent decrease in pricing, even if only a small one. It’s like petrol discounting - just confuses the real pricing.

 

After only half-heartedly looking at switching elcos in the past, I’m going to do it properly this week and will move from them if there’s even only a small advantage.

 

 

If you are out of contract then try changing power providers, you will get a call from their retention team who tend entice you to stay with a pretty sharp pricing offer.

 

 

 

 

All these discounts will be coming to an end thanks to the infinite wisdom domiciled inside the Beehive





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  # 2341245 21-Oct-2019 10:40
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MikeB4:

 

 

 

 

 

All these discounts will be coming to an end thanks to the infinite wisdom domiciled inside the Beehive

 

 

Is that a bad thing?  Those of us that can keep up to touch on pricing and plans and have an intimate knowledge of the vast array of plans, can get an ok deal and improve that by retention games, change provider and score $300 credit. Those that are in the lower socio-economic group seem to pay the highest rates as they aren't into that complexity. I think that review mentioned how many people pay old and higher rates, and why. They are the ones providing the "discount"

 

My provider EK also offers a $50 find a person credit, anything else such as free hour is a one of a simple set of plans. Innovators


 
 
 
 


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  # 2341251 21-Oct-2019 10:46
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tdgeek:

 

MikeB4:

 

 

 

 

 

All these discounts will be coming to an end thanks to the infinite wisdom domiciled inside the Beehive

 

 

Is that a bad thing?  Those of us that can keep up to touch on pricing and plans and have an intimate knowledge of the vast array of plans, can get an ok deal and improve that by retention games, change provider and score $300 credit. Those that are in the lower socio-economic group seem to pay the highest rates as they aren't into that complexity. I think that review mentioned how many people pay old and higher rates, and why. They are the ones providing the "discount"

 

My provider EK also offers a $50 find a person credit, anything else such as free hour is a one of a simple set of plans. Innovators

 

 

If they believe that taking away the discounts will make it easier for those on limited resources then they must also believe in the tooth fairy. Of course they may go back to price fixing and have the Beehive set the prices then it may happen.





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  # 2341254 21-Oct-2019 10:57
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MikeB4:

 

tdgeek:

 

MikeB4:

 

 

 

 

 

All these discounts will be coming to an end thanks to the infinite wisdom domiciled inside the Beehive

 

 

Is that a bad thing?  Those of us that can keep up to touch on pricing and plans and have an intimate knowledge of the vast array of plans, can get an ok deal and improve that by retention games, change provider and score $300 credit. Those that are in the lower socio-economic group seem to pay the highest rates as they aren't into that complexity. I think that review mentioned how many people pay old and higher rates, and why. They are the ones providing the "discount"

 

My provider EK also offers a $50 find a person credit, anything else such as free hour is a one of a simple set of plans. Innovators

 

 

If they believe that taking away the discounts will make it easier for those on limited resources then they must also believe in the tooth fairy. Of course they may go back to price fixing and have the Beehive set the prices then it may happen.

 

 

Ok, lets stick to letting the market manage itself, that works well for electricity and petrol. At least with electricity, the prices are extremely transparent. You can see all the plans and prices, some give the breakdown for these prices and levies, its not hard to make discounts illegal and watch them. There are enough innovators and competition, especially as the smaller ones will have it easier than they do now, and they already do ok now. But of you feel that all of these  power companies, as a group, have it all over whatever Government is in place, well we may as well just de regulate everything. And the poor can worry about themselves. Thats not really fair

 

 


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  # 2341256 21-Oct-2019 11:10
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tdgeek:

 

 

 

Ok, lets stick to letting the market manage itself, that works well for electricity and petrol. At least with electricity, the prices are extremely transparent. You can see all the plans and prices, some give the breakdown for these prices and levies, its not hard to make discounts illegal and watch them. There are enough innovators and competition, especially as the smaller ones will have it easier than they do now, and they already do ok now. But of you feel that all of these  power companies, as a group, have it all over whatever Government is in place, well we may as well just de regulate everything. And the poor can worry about themselves. Thats not really fair

 

 

 

 

 

 

Been there done that, I think I still have the tee shirt.Beware of Labour governments bring promises of glad tidings with power reforms. Another Labour government promised fair and affordable power with reforms and delivered, errrr higher cost power for all.  The way to make power or anything more affordable is for the government to encourage and assist in building a high growth, full employment economy with good earning potential and higher wages. Regulating pricing structures will not achieve this.





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  # 2341268 21-Oct-2019 11:25
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MikeB4:

 

tdgeek:

 

 

 

Ok, lets stick to letting the market manage itself, that works well for electricity and petrol. At least with electricity, the prices are extremely transparent. You can see all the plans and prices, some give the breakdown for these prices and levies, its not hard to make discounts illegal and watch them. There are enough innovators and competition, especially as the smaller ones will have it easier than they do now, and they already do ok now. But of you feel that all of these  power companies, as a group, have it all over whatever Government is in place, well we may as well just de regulate everything. And the poor can worry about themselves. Thats not really fair

 

 

 

 

 

 

Been there done that, I think I still have the tee shirt.Beware of Labour governments bring promises of glad tidings with power reforms. Another Labour government promised fair and affordable power with reforms and delivered, errrr higher cost power for all.  The way to make power or anything more affordable is for the government to encourage and assist in building a high growth, full employment economy with good earning potential and higher wages. Regulating pricing structures will not achieve this.

 

 

Right now we have full employment and growing wages. The review was not to regulate prices. It was to remove fake discounts and fake credits that are used to gain market share at the expense of the poor who cannot manage keeping up with the fake discounts and fake credits that they end up paying for. You are blaming Labour, thats fine, but power prices increases exceeding inflation have been around for a long time. I guess National will fix this. But to suggest that we just add high growth, add high employment, add high wages and automatically its all sorted is odd.

 

Next year, I will ask the politicians for what they will do and they will all  say " we will add high growth, add high employment, add high wages"

 

We will stick to the electricity market managing us


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  # 2341421 21-Oct-2019 15:46
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tdgeek:

 

MikeB4:

 

tdgeek:

 

Ok, lets stick to letting the market manage itself, that works well for electricity and petrol. At least with electricity, the prices are extremely transparent. You can see all the plans and prices, some give the breakdown for these prices and levies, its not hard to make discounts illegal and watch them. There are enough innovators and competition, especially as the smaller ones will have it easier than they do now, and they already do ok now. But of you feel that all of these  power companies, as a group, have it all over whatever Government is in place, well we may as well just de regulate everything. And the poor can worry about themselves. Thats not really fair

 

 

Been there done that, I think I still have the tee shirt.Beware of Labour governments bring promises of glad tidings with power reforms. Another Labour government promised fair and affordable power with reforms and delivered, errrr higher cost power for all.  The way to make power or anything more affordable is for the government to encourage and assist in building a high growth, full employment economy with good earning potential and higher wages. Regulating pricing structures will not achieve this.

 

 

Right now we have full employment and growing wages. The review was not to regulate prices. It was to remove fake discounts and fake credits that are used to gain market share at the expense of the poor who cannot manage keeping up with the fake discounts and fake credits that they end up paying for. You are blaming Labour, thats fine, but power prices increases exceeding inflation have been around for a long time. I guess National will fix this. But to suggest that we just add high growth, add high employment, add high wages and automatically its all sorted is odd.

 

Next year, I will ask the politicians for what they will do and they will all  say " we will add high growth, add high employment, add high wages"

 

We will stick to the electricity market managing us

 

 

Get a room. This argument appears to be way off-topic for a Genesis power shout discussion? 

 

But this would make a good start for a topic on the Electricity Price Review 2018-2019.




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  # 2341449 21-Oct-2019 17:03
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My political statement is that my parents would not have got the winter payment under National.

 

At the same time I not sure what Labour’s end goal is with the retentions offering deals when switch in progress, guessing still allow cheaper rates for contract.

 

Maybe to help out the smaller power providers so they don’t lose customer when switch in progress?

 

 

 

I have roughly six months contract with Genesis left, instead of seeing if deal for contract I might give someone else a go and see what like if there’s not many shouts in next 6 months. Only save around $3 over 4 to 5 hour one, so one shout on it’s own not worth much.

 

 

 

I don’t like how they said they pick who get’s the shout (from Djshadows post) wonder what the formula is, or is it who’s mates with who?


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  # 2341451 21-Oct-2019 17:13
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rugrat:

 

My political statement is that my parents would not have got the winter payment under National.

 

At the same time I not sure what Labour’s end goal is with the retentions offering deals when switch in progress, guessing still allow cheaper rates for contract.

 

Maybe to help out the smaller power providers so they don’t lose customer when switch in progress?

 

 

They are trying to make the prices offered for "retention"  available to all customers - its unlikely to work,

 

What I do find interesting is that one of the changes will remove the 33c low user daily line charge (which incidentally was introduced by Labour the last time they futzed with the power sector)

 

Which if its not done carefully it will bump up charges for very low use pensioners etc,

 

Its also gonna make lots of bach owners grumpy ,

 

 


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  # 2341476 21-Oct-2019 18:23
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What I do find interesting is that one of the changes will remove the 33c low user daily line charge (which incidentally was introduced by Labour the last time they futzed with the power sector)

 

Which if its not done carefully it will bump up charges for very low use pensioners etc,

 

Its also gonna make lots of bach owners grumpy ,

 

 

 

 

Batch owners shouldn't be on that plan as it is meant to only be available for primary residences.

 

 


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