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rugrat
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  #2782663 23-Sep-2021 13:26
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gjo: I'm a current EK customer, after reading this I thought I would switch to the stay ahead 200 plan. They came back with new prices to switch: 37c/day fixed, 34c/kwh (both Inc gst). This is quite a lot higher than my current low user EK plan. It is now obvious that the only choice is to switch to contact.

 

Yep. I didn’t want to go to the hassle of typing my address in. When before I fixed with Genesis , and was shopping around was sure the stay ahead plan had higher rates then EK’s other plans. So when people were saying they get 9% off, as it’s higher rates it’s not really 9%.

 

Genesis is being a lot more generous with their free hours this year to. Have year to use, and can use 1 hour at a time.

 

So far I’ve been given 27 hours for this year. I also managed to get discount up to 9%, normal max with going through hoops, direct debit etc, is 6%.


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  #2782679 23-Sep-2021 13:52
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gjo: I'm a current EK customer, after reading this I thought I would switch to the stay ahead 200 plan. They came back with new prices to switch: 37c/day fixed, 34c/kwh (both Inc gst). This is quite a lot higher than my current low user EK plan. It is now obvious that the only choice is to switch to contact.

 

Im on Stay Ahead Low User. Stay Ahead and Low User and not plans, one or the other. Stay Ahead just gets you a 10% credit on your $200 CC payment (9.1% discount effectively)  IIRC Stay Ahead was a very small amount higher.


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  #2782680 23-Sep-2021 13:57
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rugrat:

 

When before I fixed with Genesis , and was shopping around was sure the stay ahead plan had higher rates then EK’s other plans. So when people were saying they get 9% off, as it’s higher rates it’s not really 9%.

 

 

 

 

Im pretty sure it was pretty small increase, made the credit seem a no brainer. I'm with EK, holding out, to see if they will increase the hour of free power along with some others changes




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  #2782788 23-Sep-2021 14:11
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gjo: I'm a current EK customer, after reading this I thought I would switch to the stay ahead 200 plan. They came back with new prices to switch: 37c/day fixed, 34c/kwh (both Inc gst). This is quite a lot higher than my current low user EK plan. It is now obvious that the only choice is to switch to contact.

 

 

 

But don't you get a $20 credit for each $200 payment, which is the equivalent of a discount? 


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  #2782792 23-Sep-2021 14:16
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For context, see below for my current charges and what was offered. Even with the $20 credit I would be worse off.

Current: 0.2747 per kwh (Inc gst) ,0.30 per day (Inc gst)

Offered: 0.3405 per kwh (Inc gst), 0.37 per day (Inc gst)

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  #2782796 23-Sep-2021 14:20
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gjo: For context, see screenshots for my current charges and what was offered. Even with the $20 credit it would be an increase.

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https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/deaef1f708888a044cce1420a6491f88.jpg

 

Thats a bit daft, the rates went up 8%, and the Stay Ahead is 9.1% benefit, that not even including the daily rate increase

 

When I went to SA, the rate went up a small amount, the credit was a no brainer


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Does anyone who has switched to contact want to PM me a referral code? I think I am jumping too.  Thanks All

 

Have one now. cheers

 

 




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  #2792897 10-Oct-2021 23:44
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if anyone is looking to save further on signing up to contact and would like a referral code pm me


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  #2802346 27-Oct-2021 22:57
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sidefx:

 

tdgeek:

 

On my EK I get 10% discount by way of a 10% credit to my CC $200 automatic topup = 204.91 on your calc for EK

 

 

20/220 = ~9%  (sorry nitpick police reporting in)

 

And when I last looked at rates they were higher on Stay Ahead 200 than on Loyal Kiwi or Kiwi plans so in fact seems a bit disingenuous when the 'discount' applies to higher rate. We are changing to Powershop due to Peak/OffPeak rates, cheaper rates and overall better deal for us - we contacted EK and they weren't prepared to do anything to keep us as a customer - quite strange when we have introduced others and been a customer for multiple years.


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  #2802347 27-Oct-2021 23:00
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I'm staying put on EK. My bill has actually not changed too much (lower daily amount offsets the higher-per-kWh charge) and I am a higher user too. EK have been pretty good as a provider and even compared rates to others on our street (to check if I am getting the best deal) and indeed I am.

 

Electricity pricing is confusing. But also, remember, these fluctuate so don't lock yourself into any contracts.





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This the more recent thread covering Electric Kiwi (and Contact Energy).  These companies provide free periods daily for electricity. 

 

Question - how do you guys workaround so you benefit with the free periods?  I have read about how people organise their showers, cooking, dishwasher and laundry.  I have also read extreme percentages used in the free periods like 50-75%.  Are you guys mostly a household that runs on electricity only?  Are you mainly at school and work during the daytime?  Do you use minimal heating until the free periods?  

 

 

 

We are in Wellington but we have gas for cooking and hot water.  They at home all day and are foodies so they use gas to cook for all 3 meals.  When it is needed they would use the heatpump on after 5 or 6PM.  

 

 

 

 

 

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  #2897216 5-Apr-2022 15:05
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My solar HW is off all the time in the warmer 6-7 months, I have two timers that are set to the free hour, so I grid boost both HW cyl elements then. We do washing machine and/or dishwasher in that free hour

 

In Winter this year when heatpump(s) are on I might turn them up at 9pm till 10pm, then turn them off. Using the free boost to dispense with post 10pm heating

 

When the heated bathrooms floors are on, I make sure the evening period includes the free hour to get some benefit


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  #2897219 5-Apr-2022 15:19
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rayonline:

 

This the more recent thread covering Electric Kiwi (and Contact Energy).  These companies provide free periods daily for electricity. 

 

Question - how do you guys workaround so you benefit with the free periods?  I have read about how people organise their showers, cooking, dishwasher and laundry.  I have also read extreme percentages used in the free periods like 50-75%.  Are you guys mostly a household that runs on electricity only?  Are you mainly at school and work during the daytime?  Do you use minimal heating until the free periods?  

 

 

 

We are in Wellington but we have gas for cooking and hot water.  They at home all day and are foodies so they use gas to cook for all 3 meals.  When it is needed they would use the heatpump on after 5 or 6PM.  

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers.  

 

 

 

 

We changed to the contact Good nights plan that offers free power form 9pm - midnight each day, and by shifting our usage to 9pm can get around 30% of our usage at no cost. The additional 2 hours over the EK offering make a difference to how much we can shift to the free times.

 

This involves a little bit or reorganisation, but is manageable. We generally run heat pump/heaters at this time if needed to warm up the house (or cool in summer) and except for very cold days it tends to enough to keep us comfy.

 

We also leave the dishwasher til 9 and also the washing machine and drier. the 3 hours a day are enough to wash and dry 1 load. Other appliances that can be timed are also run at that time I have invested in some wifi enabled switches for some things including the swimming pool filter pump so I can run them more during these times and less in others.

 

Early to bed folks may struggle a little more to manage this, but for us it is fine.

 

If anyone wants a referral for $100  off (your second bill) please feel free to PM me.


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  #2897223 5-Apr-2022 15:25
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smcc:

 

We changed to the contact Good nights plan that offers free power form 9pm - midnight each day, and by shifting our usage to 9pm can get around 30% of our usage at no cost. The additional 2 hours over the EK offering make a difference to how much we can shift to the free times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you a purely electricity household?  Do you have gas?  Yes at times they generally sleep / read by 10PM ..... People generally not at home during the day?  


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rayonline:

 

Question - how do you guys workaround so you benefit with the free periods?  I have read about how people organise their showers, cooking, dishwasher and laundry.  I have also read extreme percentages used in the free periods like 50-75%.  Are you guys mostly a household that runs on electricity only?  Are you mainly at school and work during the daytime?  Do you use minimal heating until the free periods?  

 

 

We're with EK so only have the hour to make use of, but given the relative timing of this it's probably more valuable than three hours at a less useful time (This may possibly change when we get a second EV.)

 

Most of the time we have our hour set for 6-7am: all-house heating with a ducted heat pump starts then and continues on as long as it's needed (and turned on again in the evening), and my wife's Leaf charges solely for that one hour period (usually all it needs). Set the washing machine and dish washer as well. Have gas hot water so no benefits there. Our hour of free power makes up 25-40% of our daily electricity usage (but this doesn't take into account gas for water and hob). 

 

It's very little effort to do these things, and yet the savings are substantial. I imagine we'd not get the same benefit if we chose to run the heater overnight (as it's heating a cold house at 6am, as opposed to maintaining a set temp).


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