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#291917 13-Dec-2021 15:48
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We are wanting to get a new fan for the bach as it's often stinking hot which makes sleeping difficult. 

 

We have a pedestal fan now and it's OK, but it's mostly just moving existing air around. 

 

We had seen some decent specials on Dyson fans, but they are still 5 x the price of even a fancy other type of fan. Do they actually cool a room better than a traditional fan?

 

 


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  #2831519 13-Dec-2021 15:51
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fans dont cool rooms, how can they? they just move air around

 

 


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  #2831521 13-Dec-2021 15:52
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Dyson fans do not have any marketing material which suggests that they cool. Only an air conditioner can perform this function.

 

Things I like about the Dyson is the remote, the connectivity and the performance.


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  #2831522 13-Dec-2021 15:53
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Jase2985:

 

fans dont cool rooms, how can they? they just move air around

 

 

 

 

Right, that's pretty much my understanding. I didn't know if they had some sort of secret sauce that allowed them to have a cooling element or something else that helped. Is the price difference for Dyson then that they are quieter, have filtration and are fancy looking?




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  #2831523 13-Dec-2021 15:53
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boosacnoodle:

 

Things I like about the Dyson is the remote, the connectivity and the performance.

 

 

Performance in what way? How do they perform better than a standard fan?


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  #2831525 13-Dec-2021 15:56
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networkn:

 

boosacnoodle:

 

Things I like about the Dyson is the remote, the connectivity and the performance.

 

 

Performance in what way? How do they perform better than a standard fan?

 

 

We stayed in an Air B&B in Rotorua last summer and they had a Dyson fan in the master bedroom. 

 

It was pretty good, as we didn't tend to get that turbulent blast of air, but more a steady stream of virtually silent air movement over us. 

 

I am not sure I'd pay all that money for one though. They are spendy. 





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  #2831580 13-Dec-2021 16:11
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  #2831621 13-Dec-2021 17:10
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Looked at this last summer. Lots of reviews online, just about every one said not worth the money. They are only quiet on the lowest settings, and can actually get quite loud on the higher settings. Ultimately is just a fan spinning around. We purchased some Goldair whisper quiet fans which are actually pretty good at about $100 each. Saving up for air conditioning.




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  #2831699 13-Dec-2021 18:54
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We have a Hot and Cold Fan, bought when we were in a small rental.  Unfortunately it's too noisy for the bedroom, as a heater it works well.

 

As above, goldair whisper fans for the bedroom.  We had a good experience with a remote control morietti brand from Bunnings (labelled quiet, etc).

 

I really want to like the Dyson, given the cost of it, but I just cannot recommend it.  It's possible they have been improved...


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I had too many problems with mine, and considering the price I wouldn't recommend. However some of them do now also purify the air with a hepa filter, so they may benefit some people who want that as well. The Ones that heat could be a good alternative to a fan heater as they heat to a certain room temperature, so the air that comes out isn't as hot as you get with a fan heater, it is instead warm.

 

When used as a normal fan , they are quite quiet on slow speeds 1-3. They provide a consistent smooth flow of air, whereas a normal fan, the air is more choppy.


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  #2831858 14-Dec-2021 08:47
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networkn:

 

Performance in what way? How do they perform better than a standard fan?

 

 

Well it's a fan, heater and air purifier in one. It helps to purify and ciruclate the air in my toddlers room as he gets allergies like I do which helps him to sleep better. Our heat pump is down the other end of the house so when it's winter it also puts out hot air in his room. It can also flip the air flow backwards to stop the stream of air landing on him directly which would otherwise wake him up and it has a night mode which adjusts the fan speed lower so that the sound doesn't disturb him.

 

It's set-up for me in HomeKit using Homebridge which works really well too as it can turn on and off automatically based on time of day and whether someone is home or not.

 

Only downside for me is obviously the price and that the filters are expensive but you can buy compatible ones on AliExpress which appear to have similar performance. Yes, you probably could get some of these features in a cheaper device but I haven't seen one with the amount of flexibility. It's just a pleasure to use.

 

Something else to consider may be one of the Mi (Xiaomi) air purifiers. However if you genuinely need cooling you may want to consider a portable air conditioner. Kogan can have some cheap ones.


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For a bedroom, if you can, install a ceiling fan.

 

We got an Arlec GridConnect DC fan (bunnings: https://www.bunnings.co.nz/arlec-grid-connect-smart-4-blade-130cm-dc-ceiling-fan-with-remote_p0104209)

 

Best.thing.ever.

 

It's pretty much silent on it's lowest setting, which is fast enough to rain a light breeze over you all night. It's GridConnect, meaning App controlled (has a remote too). It doesn't need any special wiring (it replaces a light) - you do need an electrician to install, but it's pretty simple you could do it yourself if you're confident and proficient.

 

We've put ceiling fans in all our bedrooms now, could not recommend enough.


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  #2831948 14-Dec-2021 10:26
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In our home we have HeatPumps, we are looking for a somewhat cost-effective solution for the bach. Installing heatpumps isn't an option there for a variety of reasons I won't get into.

 

It doesn't sound like the Dyson will make us any cooler than a standard fan, so no point in paying the premium for the Dyson.

 

I've always thought air filtration was a bit of a have, but perhaps there is some merit to it.

 

Unrelated question, do people recommend an air filter system in a room with a heatpump or is a heatpump good enough to do that?


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  #2831988 14-Dec-2021 11:38
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networkn:

 

Jase2985:

 

fans dont cool rooms, how can they? they just move air around

 

 

Right, that's pretty much my understanding. I didn't know if they had some sort of secret sauce that allowed them to have a cooling element or something else that helped. Is the price difference for Dyson then that they are quieter, have filtration and are fancy looking?

 

 

Moving air evaporates water off your skin/hair.  This has a cooling effect.  Hence the term 'wind-chill'.





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  #2832475 14-Dec-2021 20:46
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A decent heat pump will have HEPA filters or similar so you shouldn't need an additional air purifier.


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  #2832543 14-Dec-2021 21:39
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This article mentiosn the Goldair SleepSmart fans very favourably: https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/124068520/the-sleep-and-sanity-saving-magic-of-a-quiet-fan?rm=a 

 

I purchased two of these cheap bladeless fans https://assets.kogan.com/files/usermanuals/Kogan-Bladeless-Fan-QSG.pdf for the kids bedrooms in 2019.  They work but the motor has a whine even on low speed that I could not sleep with.  This model is no longer sold.  

 

I did have a tower fan with three independant DC motor fans which was very good and quiet even though the blades were smaller than average.  Only the top fan was above the bed so I switched the other two off (as you could switch between controlling all three and controlling them independantly).  My only complaint was the LED display near the top was wayyyyyy too bright and tomorrow's boxer shorts were thrown over top of it at bedtime.  Again, no longer a current model.  I did try and get another one but had no luck.  https://www.priceme.co.nz/Kogan-ClearCool-Tri-Fan-Tower/p-900123462.aspx 





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