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FineWine

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#2924790 10-Jun-2022 15:42

Just further to my above post about Tui LawnForce® Superstrike® Shady Places Lawn Seed. I gave Tui a ring today to find out what sub-species of Fine Fescue they used in this lawn seed blend.

Tall Fescue = 32.5%
Chewing Fine Fescue = 35%
Creeping Red Fine Fescue = 32.5%

Tall and Chewing Fine Fescue are clumping grasses, whilst Creeping Red Fine Fescue spreads by rhizome. Over time this creeping variety will form a mat within the Tall and Chewing Fescue's thereby keeping at bay weeds and retaining the soils moisture & nutrient content better. So between the three varieties you end up with a sun, shady and drought tolerant lawn.

Here is a great explanation video on these Fescue's.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2924862 10-Jun-2022 17:22

FineWine:

Just further to my above post about Tui LawnForce® Superstrike® Shady Places Lawn Seed. I gave Tui a ring today to find out what sub-species of Fine Fescue they used in this lawn seed blend.

Tall Fescue = 32.5%
Chewing Fine Fescue = 35%
Creeping Red Fine Fescue = 32.5%

Tall and Chewing Fine Fescue are clumping grasses, whilst Creeping Red Fine Fescue spreads by rhizome. Over time this creeping variety will form a mat within the Tall and Chewing Fescue's thereby keeping at bay weeds and retaining the soils moisture & nutrient content better. So between the three varieties you end up with a sun, shady and drought tolerant lawn.

Here is a great explanation video on these Fescue's.

Are they cool or warm season grasses? You can't scalp cool season grasses, but this seems like maybe a good goto? Im in Canterbury, needs cool, season grasses but Summer is hot and dry

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#2925245 11-Jun-2022 13:54

tdgeek:

FineWine:

Just further to my above post about Tui LawnForce® Superstrike® Shady Places Lawn Seed. I gave Tui a ring today to find out what sub-species of Fine Fescue they used in this lawn seed blend.

Tall Fescue = 32.5%
Chewing Fine Fescue = 35%
Creeping Red Fine Fescue = 32.5%

Tall and Chewing Fine Fescue are clumping grasses, whilst Creeping Red Fine Fescue spreads by rhizome. Over time this creeping variety will form a mat within the Tall and Chewing Fescue's thereby keeping at bay weeds and retaining the soils moisture & nutrient content better. So between the three varieties you end up with a sun, shady and drought tolerant lawn.

Are they cool or warm season grasses? You can't scalp cool season grasses, but this seems like maybe a good goto? Im in Canterbury, needs cool, season grasses but Summer is hot and dry

The Fescue's are cool season grasses. Therefore in hot summers (>25°) they tend to stop growth and can brown off easily especially in hot dry conditions like in mid-summer if they are not in sheltered shaded areas. So they must be tended and watered to maintain their green look in such conditions and mow very high - 80-100mm (3"-4"), otherwise you will just end up with a brown lawn until cooler conditions arrive.

So if you have prairie like areas and conditions I would be planting Couch or Kikuyu grass. Though you could look at the Tui Basin Reserve Lawn Seed which is a perennial rye grass and is apparently drought tolerant. A lot of Fescue mixes contain Rye grass for that very reason.

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#2926321 14-Jun-2022 09:48

What do you folks do about moss in the lawn?

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#2926341 14-Jun-2022 10:32

AklBen:

What do you folks do about moss in the lawn?

I try to ignore it and hope it goes away.

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#2926538 14-Jun-2022 18:02

Cheers!

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#2930835 17-Jun-2022 10:21

AklBen:

What do you folks do about moss in the lawn?

This stuff works well for moss, and the sulphate of iron helps with greening.

https://store.pggwrightson.co.nz/ballance-agrinutrients-lawn-fertiliser-with-moss-killer-105800

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#2930848 17-Jun-2022 11:02

blackjack17:

AklBen:

What do you folks do about moss in the lawn?

I try to ignore it and hope it goes away.

Sorry was being flippant but in reality it tends to be a seasonal issue. In cold wet shaded conditions the moss will come, in summer it will go.

You could try a soil test to see if you have acidic soil and if so try some lime.

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#2930853 17-Jun-2022 11:12

I don't know anything about crab-grass so can't help there.

Dry weather favours clover, because it can fix it's own nitrogen, while most grasses rely on nitrogen dissolved in soil-water.

To that end; general good husbandry of a lawn will help grass beat clover.

Keep the swath length on the longish side in summer
Mulch mow at dusk and water after
Apply natural fertilisers (any of: blood and bone, fish, seaweed, compost tea, diluted vermix water or mycorrcin)

There is selective herbicide that takes out clover. It's either MCP-A or MCP-B. I can't remember which sorry. It may require an approved handler certificate to buy these days, so you might need a professional to apply it.

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#2930854 17-Jun-2022 11:12

blackjack17:

Sorry was being flippant but in reality it tends to be a seasonal issue. In cold wet shaded conditions the moss will come, in summer it will go.

You could try a soil test to see if you have acidic soil and if so try some lime.

All good. Yes, it's thick and green in winter and dies off in summer. I'd like it gone because it means the grass is very thin in certain areas so when the grass struggles it's the first area to thin out (heat of summer, or full shade/code of winter).

The old man said it was a sign the soil needed some lime, I gave that a go but it's expensive and requires a lot of it.

In spring when I do the lawn rejuvenation I will be doing a big dethatch which hopefully rips a heap of it out and then it just gets replaced by grass.

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#2931235 17-Jun-2022 23:04

AklBen:
What do you folks do about moss in the lawn?

Say "feck off, moss!".

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#2931811 19-Jun-2022 20:42

neb:
AklBen:

What do you folks do about moss in the lawn?

Say "feck off, moss!".

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