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  #3026249 24-Jan-2023 13:21
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We used A1 Doors in Auckland to service ours. They checked the motor, lubricated everything, and tightened the springs. Then re-adjusted the motor to suit the new setup. Well worth it.





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  #3026251 24-Jan-2023 13:28
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scuwp:

 

That was exactly what we thought until we blew a motor out.  Spring tension and balance, as it turns out, are very important.  It would have been a quick and easy job costing about $80 for a service guy to come and check all was OK after it was all fitted (newsflash...it wasn't).  Instead cost me $1000 for a new motor because I thought exactly the same as you.  The installer said they get a lot of work out of these DIY systems because people don't appreciate the tuning involved.  He didn't mind, kept his business lucrative.      

 

 

Interesting.  Ours was installed in 2019. No issues.  When you look at the power in those springs, you'd wonder how the addition or uneven distribution of <15kg would make a difference.

 

I don't fancy my chances of getting a tradesman out for $80.  More like $180.

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #3026362 24-Jan-2023 14:42
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Tensioning the springs didn't take very long, so I would ring around for prices. It is not a job to DIY.



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  #3026363 24-Jan-2023 14:48
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It is likely the motor was used by many different installers so I would be surprised if the instructions aren't somewhere online. I managed to find the instructions for my parents old AHI 30 year old opener on the garador website.

I suspect each manufacturer is different. But with mine it says to unclip the door from the motor and manually lift it half way up and it should balance in place. So maybe you need to get someone out to check it and tell you how to self test the spring tension. It also may depend how often the door is opened and closed

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  #3026434 24-Jan-2023 15:41
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mattwnz: Tensioning the springs didn't take very long, so I would ring around for prices. It is not a job to DIY.

 

I wouldn't even dream of fiddling with those springs.  They have enough kinetic potential to kill or maim.

 

There is no way you'll get a tradesman on site where I live for $80.  Competition is absent and competence not far behind.





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  #3026677 24-Jan-2023 21:18
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should get it serviced every year or 2 as the springs stretch and get loose so need tightening to keep the door motor in good nick.

 

Most doors have 2 sets of springs, one for up and one for down and they should be balanced to hold the door half way up, and if the motor/chain/belt were to break they should stop the door slamming shut or slamming open and coming off the end of the rails.

 

Quick and easy test is to close the door, disengage the motor and lift the door slowly. there shouldn't be too much force needed to pull the door up and when it goes past half way it shouldn't take too much force to push it to the top. same goes with bringing it down.

 

MikeAqua:

 

Interesting.  Ours was installed in 2019. No issues.  When you look at the power in those springs, you'd wonder how the addition or uneven distribution of <15kg would make a difference.

 

 

Given some springs are rated to about as low as 30kg, 15kg is adding another 50% to them so yea makes a difference.


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  #3026747 25-Jan-2023 00:03
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Jase2985:

 

 

 

Given some springs are rated to about as low as 30kg, 15kg is adding another 50% to them so yea makes a difference.

 

 

 

 

Mine was so heavy after the  insulation was added to it that it was difficult to manually lift when it was closed. It needed the spring retensioning anyway after a years usage . So adding the insulation would have added a lot of extra stress to the motor. 




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Jase2985:

 

Given some springs are rated to about as low as 30kg, 15kg is adding another 50% to them so yea makes a difference.

 

 

There's no way ours are only 30kg springs.  They are "I will kill you if you try to release me" springs.  It was easy to lift the door manually before,during and after installation of the polystyrene. 

 

 





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  #3027157 25-Jan-2023 20:33
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MikeAqua:

 

Jase2985:

 

Given some springs are rated to about as low as 30kg, 15kg is adding another 50% to them so yea makes a difference.

 

 

There's no way ours are only 30kg springs.  They are "I will kill you if you try to release me" springs.  It was easy to lift the door manually before,during and after installation of the polystyrene. 

 

 

 

 

you missed the point, i didnt say they were im saying someones door could be, so the 15kg of weight could be adding a lot more to their door.


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Thx for all input.

Garador quote for the double garage was $966.

Bought the Expol 28mm from mitre10.. was priced at 135 x 2 at burnings.. so Mitre10 did their 15% less so cost 230 for the two packs and fitted it within a day. Now to get a garage door checkup / spring adjustment.

Will add extra insulation surfaced mounted on the Gib ceiling in the Garage, below the kitchen Floor.

Peter

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