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  #3357553 26-Mar-2025 16:59
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Handle9: How much heat do you think an extract rangehood actually removes from the space? It’s not a lot at all.

 

Lots and lots. An externally vented rangehood removes tons of heat. Essential in summer.

 

My rangehood externally vents in normal circumstances. There was a problem. I noticed the house was getting stupidly hot with the rangehood on. Later I noticed air was blowing out of it near the ceiling. On removing the cover I found no retainer was fitted to the motor/hose during installation and the vent hose was now detached from the motor. The unit was blowing all the heat out at ceiling level. Fixed the hose retainer. House temperature problem solved.

 

As a bonus in summer we run the rangehood when the oven is in use. It is surprisingly effective at keeping internal temperatures down by removing a proportion of the hot air generated by the oven and venting that externally.

 

 

While your anecdote is nice it really doesn't prove all that much.

 

The amount of heat removed by a range hood is really limited - it's essentially waste convective heat. Most of the heat from the cooker is transmitted into the cookware. From there it's radiated heat which a rangehood does nothing to solve.

 

A rangehood removes waste air which has some energy but not significant amounts of heat in the context of other heat sources. It's not nothing but it's far from significant compared to the other elements. 

 

I've worked in HVAC control for the best part of 20 years and never seen a rangehood used as a temperature control device because that is not what it's purpose is. It's used for the control of fumes and humidity.


 
 
 

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  #3357644 27-Mar-2025 07:25
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Handle9: The amount of heat removed by a range hood is really limited - it's essentially waste convective heat. Most of the heat from the cooker is transmitted into the cookware. From there it's radiated heat which a rangehood does nothing to solve.

 

The amount of heat removed by a rangehood with an effective exhaust including 'waste convective heat' is significant for the comfort of the occupants. Rather than offer additional anecdotal evidence obtained by placing my hand in front of the external vent while not cooking and cooking, I will use an analogy we can both agree shows effective cooling of radiated heat with airflow. CPU heatsinks emit radiated heat. Without a fan a CPU heatsink becomes hotter. CPUs are always fan cooled. A CPU and exhaust fan illustrates heat removal by advection sometimes called forced convection. We can now agree the CPU and exhaust fan removes radiated heat. Sure, a case housing provides advantages in airflow management. The CPU fan remains effective even without a case.

 

In a similar way the rangehood causes air movement across multiple radiative heat sources and then exhausts that heat externally. This includes temperature reduction of nearby objects which have absorbed radiated heat like the splashback. You have already agreed that hot moist water laden energy dense air typically generated by cooking is effectively evacuated by a rangehood. Without exhaust the heat and moisture is going to make occupants uncomfortable.

 

Your main objection has been and will be that these effects are insignificant. I maintain that all these effects in total are significant for the comfort of the occupants.


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  #3357648 27-Mar-2025 07:43
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neb: Is it "specified with" or [snip]

 

Imo the logic is applied after kitchen design. Ye Olde row style/vertical apartment housing typically placed the kitchen and cooking area on an external wall. Coincidently with the kitchen area looking into a small yard and a back door. I'm not suggesting an unthinking return to that. Newer design trends typically use a ranchslider for external access sometimes with deck. This requires that the kitchen is placed on an internal wall. External wall design = specify rangehood exhaust. Internal wall design = specify rangehood recirculating. Job done.


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