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  Reply # 1103330 6-Aug-2014 14:25
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What about support for XBMC or an Apple TV app? I've seen the questions pop up numerous times, but I don't remember seeing a definitive answer.

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  Reply # 1103332 6-Aug-2014 14:28
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I'd love XBMC or MediaPortal support but I don't know whether their license would allow it.  If they had that, I wouldn't need to worry about the TV :-)  Or what would be better is distributing it all via RTSP or something similar that we can add to Mediaportal to access the streams like we could in a normal EPG, now that would be rather special!

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1103336 6-Aug-2014 14:36
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raspygold: What about support for XBMC or an Apple TV app? I've seen the questions pop up numerous times, but I don't remember seeing a definitive answer.


Airplay is possible with Apple TV, however an App is not. This is due to technicalities at Apple with respect to our streams. It's a compatibility issue that they don't seem at all fussed to fix.

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  Reply # 1103341 6-Aug-2014 14:42
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samsmith:
raspygold: What about support for XBMC or an Apple TV app? I've seen the questions pop up numerous times, but I don't remember seeing a definitive answer.


Airplay is possible with Apple TV, however an App is not. This is due to technicalities at Apple with respect to our streams. It's a compatibility issue that they don't seem at all fussed to fix.


Intriguing, especially considering other Neulion deployments have Apple TV apps. 

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  Reply # 1103361 6-Aug-2014 14:56
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Krishant007:
samsmith:
Krishant007: if any previous subscribers here are not intending to renew their subscriptions, could I get the code and get the discount? Wonderingly....


You need to have a registered email address from last season.


Fair enough. Thought I'd ask :). Will lookout for any deals on the season pass then.

Cheers


I'm in the same boat ... I was saving up for it for the new season but with the price hike it has become unaffordable. Annoyingly I have a very rich neighbour who test-drove a Hyundai a while back and now has PLP for free.

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Reply # 1103373 6-Aug-2014 15:06
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samsmith:
invisibleman18: @samsmith
Is there any possibility of games console apps? I don't own a Samsung TV or Apple device so my only option to get it on my TV has been to connect my laptop to TV via HDMI, which isn't the best experience as there is a lot of motion judder. A playstation app would be ideal for me as I would no long have to do that or buy new equipment.


We had been in discussions with Xbox until the pulled the plug on Australasia...we have now opened talks with the PS development team, but it's not looking particularly hopeful for this season yet.


What do you mean by pulled the plug on Australasia?

I hate, at least Microsoft and Nintendo among others, stating that TV/streaming services available in the rest of the world will come to NZ, it's just blatantly untrue.

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  Reply # 1103395 6-Aug-2014 15:16
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samsmith:
Benoire: Any more news on the 2012 Samsung TVs?  I am missing my footy but cannot stand to watch it in a browser, hate them.  Also, are you able to now chose where to start a stream that is currently live?  MediaPortal allows you to either start a channel stream at the beginning, a defined point OR at the live point. Last time I checked, you could only join a live game at the live point and not at the beginning which meant you could see the score.  Can we now start at the beginning of the stream if I join a game at 5.30am that started at 5am?


Frustratingly we are still waiting on definitive answers from the Samsung development team. We understand they have just completed QA on the app and are waiting to hear if this update includes 2012 as well as 2014. We will let you know as soon as we can get an answer.


schmichael: One of the PLP guys is going to be on Devlin's Radiosport show on Friday. I plan to ask him about the Samsung TV app. Tune in to find out!!!


Can you please ask whether the app for 2014 (and 2015) Samsung TVs will include H.265 / HEVC streams using the onboard decoder, rather than just H.264? Can you also please ask if this will be the case for the Android TV boxes that will debut in September / October (presumably only Samsung-branded ones?) Will this also extend to Google Chromecast? This will enable the bandwidth to be halved at the same resolution and bitrate, or to be kept constant for double the bitrate.

On that note, please also ask whether we'll see an increase regardless from 1280x720 resolution, 30fps framerate, 4Mbps bitrate, 8-bit colour depth, 4:2:0 luma/chroma subsampling and 2D.

1920x1080, 60fps, 20Mbps, 10-bit or even 12-bit and 4:2:2 would be wonderful: I believe that is all supplied by the raw Premier League Productions feed and Elemental Technologies have the expertise for H.265 / HEVC and presumably NeuLion as well. 3D would be fantastic, too, although I believe only Sky UK currently record in this format so some badgering of Premier League Productions may be required ;-) Then for the 2015-2016 season we could move right up to 3840x2160 resolution :-)

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  Reply # 1103414 6-Aug-2014 15:40
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Davy:
Krishant007:
samsmith:
Krishant007: if any previous subscribers here are not intending to renew their subscriptions, could I get the code and get the discount? Wonderingly....


You need to have a registered email address from last season.


Fair enough. Thought I'd ask :). Will lookout for any deals on the season pass then.

Cheers


I'm in the same boat ... I was saving up for it for the new season but with the price hike it has become unaffordable. Annoyingly I have a very rich neighbour who test-drove a Hyundai a while back and now has PLP for free.


They do now have a monthly payment option instead of having to pay the whole lot up front so that could help you out.

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  Reply # 1103417 6-Aug-2014 15:41
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The thing holding me back is connecting the laptop to the TV. The roku has made Netflix amazing cos I don't have to do that anymore. I also get nfl game pass via Plex and Roku. I also don't want to watch on my 7'' tablet. Basically the lack of alternatives is stopping me subscribing. If you're going to charge $200 a season you need to make it more accessible. And no, I don't have a Samsung TV, just Panasonic.

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  Reply # 1103420 6-Aug-2014 15:50
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Can you please turn android app into a tv remote friendly version? And allow to stream over higher bitrate instead of only 1600kbps?

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  Reply # 1103425 6-Aug-2014 15:55
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Same for me and that's what stopped me subscribing last season and instead I relied on the delayed Arsenal TV on Sky. But the delays were sometimes just too frustrating. Instead of the 1pm Sunday Sky initially promised, sometimes it was 24 hours of avoiding the result, and we didn't get midweek games as for whatever reason Arsenal (and Spurs for that matter) would only supply one game a week, so there were still times I had to dowload games or get up in the night to find a dodgy free stream. Can't really face having to do that again so am this season going to accept a bit more hassle and reduction in quality for the guarantee of being able to watch every game either live or as soon as I get up.

My parents (Spurs fans) also got too frustrated with Spurs TV which doesn't seem to be returning this season so we're going to share it and split the cost between us, and just coordinate not to be using it at the same time. Spurs will often play on a different day due to Europa anyway, and they are retired so have more time than me so it shouldn't be a problem. Plus they tend to get up pretty early so on Sundays both teams are playing they'll probably have watched their game before I'm up (with Sky I tended to sleep in and watch recorded "as live" when I got up rather than getting up in the night).

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  Reply # 1103431 6-Aug-2014 16:05
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dabotsonline: Can you please ask whether the app for 2014 (and 2015) Samsung TVs will include H.265 / HEVC streams using the onboard decoder, rather than just H.264? Can you also please ask if this will be the case for the Android TV boxes that will debut in September / October (presumably only Samsung-branded ones?) Will this also extend to Google Chromecast? This will enable the bandwidth to be halved at the same resolution and bitrate, or to be kept constant for double the bitrate.

On that note, please also ask whether we'll see an increase regardless from 1280x720 resolution, 30fps framerate, 4Mbps bitrate, 8-bit colour depth, 4:2:0 luma/chroma subsampling and 2D.

1920x1080, 60fps, 20Mbps, 10-bit or even 12-bit and 4:2:2 would be wonderful: I believe that is all supplied by the raw Premier League Productions feed and Elemental Technologies have the expertise for H.265 / HEVC and presumably NeuLion as well. 3D would be fantastic, too, although I believe only Sky UK currently record in this format so some badgering of Premier League Productions may be required ;-) Then for the 2015-2016 season we could move right up to 3840x2160 resolution :-)


Come on, be realistic...

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  Reply # 1103433 6-Aug-2014 16:06
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I had great success with a surface rt watching in a browser via hdmi all last season. I believe older laptops struggle from anecdotal reports...
Lack of remote is the biggest gripe, but a wireless keyboard/motion air mouse from ebay eventually solved that


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  Reply # 1103434 6-Aug-2014 16:07
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invisibleman18: Same for me and that's what stopped me subscribing last season and instead I relied on the delayed Arsenal TV on Sky. But the delays were sometimes just too frustrating. Instead of the 1pm Sunday Sky initially promised, sometimes it was 24 hours of avoiding the result, and we didn't get midweek games as for whatever reason Arsenal (and Spurs for that matter) would only supply one game a week, so there were still times I had to dowload games or get up in the night to find a dodgy free stream. Can't really face having to do that again so am this season going to accept a bit more hassle and reduction in quality for the guarantee of being able to watch every game either live or as soon as I get up.

My parents (Spurs fans) also got too frustrated with Spurs TV which doesn't seem to be returning this season so we're going to share it and split the cost between us, and just coordinate not to be using it at the same time. Spurs will often play on a different day due to Europa anyway, and they are retired so have more time than me so it shouldn't be a problem. Plus they tend to get up pretty early so on Sundays both teams are playing they'll probably have watched their game before I'm up (with Sky I tended to sleep in and watch recorded "as live" when I got up rather than getting up in the night).


At least with PLP you get half decent commentators.

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  Reply # 1103447 6-Aug-2014 16:21
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True, although the Arsenal ones, although slightly biased weren't too bad. To be fair even the City and Spurs ones were tolerable, it was MUTV with Pat Crerand that was unbearable. He'd go off his nut about an opposition player trying to con the ref if they so much as appealed for a throw in. I never watched Liverpool or Chelsea TV on Sommet as I didn't have access to UHF frieview. Sometimes Arsenal TV had Stewart Robson who goes out of his way to be anti-Arsenal so it often went the opposite way.

Guess the key thing with the club TV versions though is that they are not intended to be your main viewing of the game. They are aimed at fans who may want to watch a replay from their club's perspective.

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