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geekiegeek
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  #890225 5-Sep-2013 11:42
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Klipspringer:
jevvv:
geekiegeek: Do people still buy shiny disks with media on them? :-)


Yup- at the rate I buy them it's still cheaper than all I can eat data on my broadband ;)


I have recently started purchasing a few CD's again to add to my nearly 20year collection (some all time favorites, that I have never ever bought before).

On ebay CD's can be fairly cheap, and I can get great CD's delivered for sometimes as little as $8 - $10. And I get the shiny disk to keep. Far cheaper than buying the digital copy from itunes or on google play.

I digitize all my CD's and upload them to google play for playing in the car and on my android phone etc ...

But. Nothing beats playing the real thing on my CD player at home. I have my entire CD collection right next to my CD player.

On that note. I'm keen to start investing in some vinyl too. Maybe I'm just old school.


I use Flac and a logitech Squeezebox to achieve the same "lossless" quality but still no shiny disks. I have invested in a fair amount of Vinyl recently but that's a whole other topic :-)





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  #890226 5-Sep-2013 11:45
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Well, the question is answered. :)



Last time I've checked, on iTunes US it was USD29.99...

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  #890227 5-Sep-2013 11:45
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wscalioni:
NonprayingMantis:
wscalioni:
Klipspringer:
wscalioni: Well, here's my question: Breaking Bad available? :)



Its on Netfix, right up to Season 5.

US$7.99 per month ...


Netflix model is not my favorite. I prefer buying instead of renting/subscribing because I like very specific content.


presumably with the caveat that if the subscription service has the content you want, you would be ok with that?



Well, this is an interesting comparison. In theory, your assumption is true and a subscription service with the content I enjoy should be ok.

Thinking about long term, I presumably will spend more money paying for subscriptions than paying for owning only the content I want. Actually, this is the difference between service and product. I.e. when I think about "Game of Thrones" I want to have it (and additionally I don't want a physical media stealing my space on a shelf) and I don't care if "The Mummy 2" is available as well, then in this case I prefer the product, not the service. 

I am not saying the subscription model is a bad thing at all, it is just about what suits my habits. And for me this decision is completely related to the content type. Regarding music, I use Spotify and I am absolutely happy with it.


I'm just thinking that you specifically asked for Breaking bad in an earlier post.

The cost to buy a single season in HD is $25AUD on Exyflix.  If you want to buy all 6 seasons (well, the 5th season is split into two parts) then this will cost you upwards of $125 AUD, around $150NZD

That will get you 12 months subscription to Netflix including the cost of the VPN/Proxy to access it, and Netflix has all the seasons of breaking bad available in HD.
But not only do you get access to breaking bad, but you also get access to the thousands of other shows and movies on Netflix.  Sure, you may not want to watch many, or even most, of them, but there is bound to be some stuff you like on there and you can watch all of that at no extra cost. To watch any of that via Ezyflix will cost you more $$$.




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  #890230 5-Sep-2013 11:46
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wscalioni: Well, the question is answered. :)




now check your credit card and see if you were billed $24.99AUD or $24.99NZD   :D

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  #890231 5-Sep-2013 11:47
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jfanning:
geekiegeek: Do people still buy shiny disks with media on them? :-)


Yes, I prefer to get HD audio with my HD video


and I think that if this or the extra content that comes with bluray is important to you then its well worth paying the premium.

Personally whilst I don't want bad sound for my movies and tv, I'm not a collector so only ever watch things once usually and stereo or 5.1 streams are fine. Music on the other hand is a totally different story where I have spent many hours building up a collection that is all lossless (a lot in HD Audio formats as well) after making the mistake some years a go of ripping all my CDs to mp3 and selling the disks, doh! 

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  #890248 5-Sep-2013 12:10
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according to nbr the 'HD' content is only 720p
That will still look good, but hope you guys arent expecting 1080p...

http://www.nbr.co.nz/ezyflix

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  #890280 5-Sep-2013 13:03

Random question but semi-related. Do places like this keep a record of what was searched for demand purposes? I searched four things that never turn up on these sites and they didn't have them. Saving Private Ryan is never on these things!

 
 
 

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  #890330 5-Sep-2013 14:06
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sdav: Random question but semi-related. Do places like this keep a record of what was searched for demand purposes? I searched four things that never turn up on these sites and they didn't have them. Saving Private Ryan is never on these things!


http://www.canistream.it/search/movie/saving%20private%20ryan

rental $2.99 USD, $9.99 USD purchase  on amazon

 

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  #890355 5-Sep-2013 14:55
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Disappointed
300 movies, 9 different tv series, only Breaking Bad could be called "A" quality.

A.

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  #890527 5-Sep-2013 19:13
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So, from what I have seen so far, on evaluation.

1.  CONTENT. Score: weak, with a possible downgrade to pathetic.

afe66: 300 movies, 9 different tv series, only Breaking Bad could be called "A" quality.

A.


Which is disappointing. From the article in Stuff today it clearly read as if we would get 1500 movies and 300-400 TV series. Which is an adequate, but not great, range. Counting my (large) backlog of not yet watched recorded Sky material and (equally large) library of purchased media, I probably have at least 1,500 films, all at least of some interest to me, available already available in my collection. Plus, 1,500 is low by the standards of, say, Netflix. A range of 300 movies would be beyond bad, it's far less than either my video rental store or home collection, and would qualify as pathetic.

2.  PRICING. Score: Fail

From Stuff: films will cost $6.99 to rent and $24.99 to buy online in standard definition. HD films would cost $1 more to rent and $5 more to buy, but back-catalogue films would cost $4.99 to rent and $8.99 to download and
own. Significantly less than a DVD rental store which offers new releases for less, and back catalog at $2 for a week ($1 on cheapie Tuesday), without annoying DRM, player restrictions or chewing up broadband quota.

3.  DRM/COMPATIBILITY. Score: Unknown.

Although Stuff's references to Ultraviolet being involved don't bode well.

4.  QUALITY. Score: Unclear, but probably mediocre

I doubt, for instance, that their rented HD offerings will come close video/audio quality-wise to a rented Blu-Ray. Of which my local rental shop offers a wider range, that will play on my equipment, more cheaply.

So, in summary, it looks like an overpriced service, with a poor content range, streamed in mediocre quality, and that's also (potentially) massivly DRM encumbered. Sigh.

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  #890644 5-Sep-2013 21:26
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Why does the media keep calling it "netflix" for NZ or saying it's the same as netflix?

As previously mentioned netflix is flat rate all you can eat. while this is pay per show/movie.




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  #890749 6-Sep-2013 09:39
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mentalinc: Why does the media keep calling it "netflix" for NZ or saying it's the same as netflix?

As previously mentioned netflix is flat rate all you can eat. while this is pay per show/movie.


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  #890752 6-Sep-2013 09:44
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having another look today, looks like they have added a load more content.

there are now 41 TV seasons available. so that is some good news, although no new Movies.

The movies are still only in SD though.

anybody tried actually watching anything yet?

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  #890759 6-Sep-2013 10:06
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NonprayingMantis: having another look today, looks like they have added a load more content.

there are now 41 TV seasons available. so that is some good news, although no new Movies.

The movies are still only in SD though.

anybody tried actually watching anything yet?


41 seasons but how many are current. I see 5 seasons of weeds for a start so maybe 10 actual "shows"

Until we lose the sky monopoly I don't expect to see anything like Netflix, Hulu or Itunes US for TV shows in NZ. To be honest I don't really understand why companies like this and Quickflix bother with NZ when they are so hamstrung. I suspect many of the public just see it as a crap selection and write them off with out actually understanding why its a crap selection which results in the company getting a bad rap that's probably hard to overcome in the future if things change and content opens up.



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  #890768 6-Sep-2013 10:36
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geekiegeek:
NonprayingMantis: having another look today, looks like they have added a load more content.

there are now 41 TV seasons available. so that is some good news, although no new Movies.

The movies are still only in SD though.

anybody tried actually watching anything yet?


41 seasons but how many are current. I see 5 seasons of weeds for a start so maybe 10 actual "shows"

Until we lose the sky monopoly I don't expect to see anything like Netflix, Hulu or Itunes US for TV shows in NZ. To be honest I don't really understand why companies like this and Quickflix bother with NZ when they are so hamstrung. I suspect many of the public just see it as a crap selection and write them off with out actually understanding why its a crap selection which results in the company getting a bad rap that's probably hard to overcome in the future if things change and content opens up.




I think the whole 'sky monopoly' thing is largely a BS argument when it comes to TV stuff

1) Sky doesn't have very much Tv at all.  Only SoHo has anything meaningful on it, and this isn't that relevant to services like Netflix since Netflix has never had any HBO content anyway.

2) Netflix has almost no current TV on it even in the states.  Aside from the small amount of stuff they produce themselves (house of cards etc) everything on Netflix is at least 1-2 years old.



When it comes to Sport like the rugby or cricket, there might be a case for sky being a 'monopoly' since the barriers to entry are so high for any of the tier 1 sports that nobody else has the scale to enter the market,  but for TV, I don't think this applies.

the most likely reason why Netflix isn't here is that the size of the market is simply too small for them to be worth bothering with at this point when they can instead be entering South America etc

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