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  Reply # 1068111 18-Jun-2014 08:35
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'Illegal' my ass,

Sky trying to tell the press that not respecting its exclusive right to display media in NZ is illegal.  I have no relationship with Sky, I have not entered a contract with Sky and Sky has no grounds to call anything I do illegal.  If people are viewing Sky exclusive content from somewhere else...that's Sky's problem, and they need to talk to their suppliers.

As another user has said, I'm parallel importing my content from America.  I am breaking Netflix's terms of service, but breaking a contract is not illegal...



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  Reply # 1068114 18-Jun-2014 08:36
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turb:
KiwiNZ: Why do I have this nagging feeling that Sky will make a complete pigs breakfast out of this?


*Finger hovering over the "Set Answer" button*

+1'd and fully agree.

[Conspiracy]Sky will want to make a pigs breakfast of it, the online rights will be locked away so no-one else can play with them[/conspiracy]

I really hope they do a good job, that they release Apps for Smart TVs, Adroid, iOS, ApleTV, Windows and that they have enough bandwidth and technology to make it look good. It needs to be HD, DD5.1, and with a nice UI.

What they will do on the other hand.......

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  Reply # 1068115 18-Jun-2014 08:38
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turb: This from the NZ Herald today:

Sky Television has unveiled a new subscription video-on-demand service that will be free for MySky customers and available for one-off purchases on tablets and mobile phones by non-Sky subscribers.


Where does this leave Sky subscribers who don't pay for mysky? lol


Looking even sillier than they do now.  Why anyone would pay $60 and upwards for Sky then not pay $15 extra to get MySky (which IMHO doubles or triples the value of Sky) is beyond comprehension.

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  Reply # 1068116 18-Jun-2014 08:40
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Well this is going to be a lovely, fragmented content access mess.

 


You could have Sky + Mysky which gives you free access to SVOD. SVOD has Soho content, but you don't subscribe to Soho. So do you have to add Soho to your normal subscription to access it? What about these stand alone SVOD subs? Ugh.

Sky have many different subscription levels and add-ons which is just going to make this far more complicated than it needs to be. I also doubt they will move to simpler pricing model as it would likely cut down on their glorious margins.

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  Reply # 1068117 18-Jun-2014 08:42
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turb: "some consumers can illegally obtain US service Netflix from US servers"

OMG that old chestnut....makes the rest of the article less credible somehow.

Maybe it was someone from Sky or Telecom that told them that?


I suspect that they've been reading too many FoxTel AU press releases where they call anyone who watches the like of Netflix a pirate..




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  Reply # 1068119 18-Jun-2014 08:48
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Looking even sillier than they do now.  Why anyone would pay $60 and upwards for Sky then not pay $15 extra to get MySky (which IMHO doubles or triples the value of Sky) is beyond comprehension.


It's beyond me why anyone would pay $15/month extra just for the sake of paying extra, when they gain no features they want?




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  Reply # 1068124 18-Jun-2014 08:54
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shk292:

Looking even sillier than they do now.  Why anyone would pay $60 and upwards for Sky then not pay $15 extra to get MySky (which IMHO doubles or triples the value of Sky) is beyond comprehension.


It's beyond me why anyone would pay $15/month extra just for the sake of paying extra, when they gain no features they want?


Inversely, I'm very close to getting rid of Sky altogether now I've sorted out Amazon video and BBC iplayer via Unotelly.  The only sticking point in my household is the ease of use and features of the MySky box - if I could convince SWMBO that a Panasonic Freeview HDD recorder would be to Freeview what MySky is to Sky, I'd cancel Sky right now

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  Reply # 1068126 18-Jun-2014 09:05
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What's the difference between this and skygo?

With skygo on pc can already stream on demand any program in your subscription package, including soho and movies.
There's no adds even on programs off prime, just a shame the picture quality when pc hooked up to tv isn't very good, and doesn't do HD.

Edit: found one difference rereading release, one off purchases can be made by non sky subscribers.

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  Reply # 1068127 18-Jun-2014 09:06
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Back on topic...

It will be interesting to see how this srevice shapes up on launch and the fact is it will capture a large number of subscribers just because it's Sky and they're who you get your TV from - in the same way that Telecom is the default ISP for many and Apple the default provider of tablets.

If I were to consider this in place of Netflix (US) or BBC etc it would need to be:
- comparable in price to Netflix
- similar content range to Netflix
- available on wide range of devices, eg Xbox, smart TV, home theatre systems
- HD by default with no extra cost
- available on unlimited devices per household

But if it delivers the above, it's difficult to see how the Sky user base won't be horribly cannibalised

My prediction is that it will cost at least twice as much as Netflix and fall down significantly on most of my other requirements

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  Reply # 1068130 18-Jun-2014 09:20
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shk292: Back on topic...

It will be interesting to see how this srevice shapes up on launch and the fact is it will capture a large number of subscribers just because it's Sky and they're who you get your TV from - in the same way that Telecom is the default ISP for many and Apple the default provider of tablets.

If I were to consider this in place of Netflix (US) or BBC etc it would need to be:
- comparable in price to Netflix
- similar content range to Netflix
- available on wide range of devices, eg Xbox, smart TV, home theatre systems
- HD by default with no extra cost
- available on unlimited devices per household

But if it delivers the above, it's difficult to see how the Sky user base won't be horribly cannibalised

My prediction is that it will cost at least twice as much as Netflix and fall down significantly on most of my other requirements


I have no problem with it costing twice as much as Netflix - I'd happily pay $20-$25 a month here for VOD if the offering was similar to Netflix and your requirements above ie;

- Good content range
- No ads in programs (I could handle a 15 second promo at the start, like TVNZ OD does sometimes)
- Available on a wide range of Devices (most important IMO Along with HD)
- HD and 5.1 audio
- Unlimited devices in the house
- Didn't need a Sky subscription to get it
- Didn't need to be locked into an ISP to get it
- I'd happily also then pay for PPV events (eg. Rugby) if they were available on the same devices.

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  Reply # 1068162 18-Jun-2014 09:35
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trig42:
shk292: Back on topic...

It will be interesting to see how this srevice shapes up on launch and the fact is it will capture a large number of subscribers just because it's Sky and they're who you get your TV from - in the same way that Telecom is the default ISP for many and Apple the default provider of tablets.

If I were to consider this in place of Netflix (US) or BBC etc it would need to be:
- comparable in price to Netflix
- similar content range to Netflix
- available on wide range of devices, eg Xbox, smart TV, home theatre systems
- HD by default with no extra cost
- available on unlimited devices per household

But if it delivers the above, it's difficult to see how the Sky user base won't be horribly cannibalised

My prediction is that it will cost at least twice as much as Netflix and fall down significantly on most of my other requirements


I have no problem with it costing twice as much as Netflix - I'd happily pay $20-$25 a month here for VOD if the offering was similar to Netflix and your requirements above ie;

- Good content range
- No ads in programs (I could handle a 15 second promo at the start, like TVNZ OD does sometimes)
- Available on a wide range of Devices (most important IMO Along with HD)
- HD and 5.1 audio
- Unlimited devices in the house
- Didn't need a Sky subscription to get it
- Didn't need to be locked into an ISP to get it
- I'd happily also then pay for PPV events (eg. Rugby) if they were available on the same devices.


I'd agree.  But I'd say your unlimited devices (netflix restricts you to 3) so we should be a bit more reasonable and expect say 3-5 devices rather than unlimited.

Definitely agree with the no sky subscription - if they want me then I don't a subscription - I'm pretty happy with my current services (netflix, FTA, bbc, itv + the odd vudu/itunes rental).  But I'd look at a service like this if the streaming catalogue was reasonable (read as > than quickflix but doesn't have to be as big as netflix) and reasonably priced PPV events available on device, or on a way I could get to my tv.




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  Reply # 1068180 18-Jun-2014 09:44
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Same, and I did not realize that Netflix was limited to 3, so I guess 3-5 devices would be great.

Catalogue does not have to be as good as Netflix (US), be nice if it was a good or better than Netflix UK though.

Oh, and no paying extra for content (other than PPV events like live sports).

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  Reply # 1068182 18-Jun-2014 09:46
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As above. It doesn't have to be a HUGE catalogue, but at least comparable to Netflix quality/selection. And not require a Sky subscription.






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  Reply # 1068193 18-Jun-2014 09:54
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Fellet said Sky aimed to be profitable on the new service within three years.

Fellet declined to comment on speculation that Sky intended to buy the internet service provider Orcon.


Read: Sky intends to increase the price of this product annually so it can be profitable within 3 years. 
Read: Will not be free for mysky customers after 3 years.

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  Reply # 1068196 18-Jun-2014 09:58
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3. Not charge extra for it. They already get $70+ a month from me. Netflix gets $8


Can't believe you pay $70 for such a crap service in the first place. I suspect you, like the vast majority, are paying $70 per month for the right to watch the occasional game of rugby?

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