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  Reply # 1075969 28-Jun-2014 12:01
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NonprayingMantis:
geekiegeek:
eracode: I am also interested to see answers to this and hope you won't mind if I add a question.

When watching Netflix on TV (two-year-old Samsung Smart LCD) is there any way I can see the resolution NF is currently playing at?

My understanding is that what NF calls Super HD is actually 1080p - not something greater that might be implied by that term, and their 'HD' is 720p.


I believe that SuperHD is 1080p at higher bit rate then standard 1080p.

I use an AppleTV hard wired via Astrill VPN and get SuperHD every time without issue.


How can you tell? I've tried fiddling with the Apple TV but can't find any way to find out the streaming quality.
Or are you just judging it by eye?


 You may like to look at this:

http://www.netflixfixer.com/2013/03/6-things-you-should-know-about-netflix.html

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  Reply # 1075972 28-Jun-2014 12:11
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PoHq: 

To see what resolution it's playing at play this title from Netflix https://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70136810?trkid=438403

I
t's an example test video they provide and displays the quality on the screen.




Thanks. I was wondering if there was any way of seeing the bit rate &/or resolution on the fly while watching an actual movie.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1075977 28-Jun-2014 12:23
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Thanks. I was wondering if there was any way of seeing the bit rate &/or resolution on the fly while watching an actual movie.


You can in Windows 8 with IE apparently but I was not able to get that metadata when I tried it.

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  Reply # 1075978 28-Jun-2014 12:38
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eracode:
NonprayingMantis:
geekiegeek:
eracode: I am also interested to see answers to this and hope you won't mind if I add a question.

When watching Netflix on TV (two-year-old Samsung Smart LCD) is there any way I can see the resolution NF is currently playing at?

My understanding is that what NF calls Super HD is actually 1080p - not something greater that might be implied by that term, and their 'HD' is 720p.


I believe that SuperHD is 1080p at higher bit rate then standard 1080p.

I use an AppleTV hard wired via Astrill VPN and get SuperHD every time without issue.


How can you tell? I've tried fiddling with the Apple TV but can't find any way to find out the streaming quality.
Or are you just judging it by eye?


 You may like to look at this:

http://www.netflixfixer.com/2013/03/6-things-you-should-know-about-netflix.html


What does that article have to do with my question?
The guy who wrote it doesn't even know that peering and peer to peer are different things.

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  Reply # 1076015 28-Jun-2014 13:35
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eracode:
vexxxboy: ok just found out you need to download the netflix windows 8 app to get Super HD . off to experiment .


What about us plebs who are still on W7 (serious question)?


im on W7 for my main PC and it looks like 3000kbps is maximum and i tried to find the W8 app for my laptop and everytime i go to the store to download it i cant find it , even though it's meant to be there. If anyone has downloaded the App, could they tell me how. Thanks.

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  Reply # 1076016 28-Jun-2014 13:43
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NonprayingMantis:
eracode:
NonprayingMantis:
geekiegeek:
eracode: I am also interested to see answers to this and hope you won't mind if I add a question.

When watching Netflix on TV (two-year-old Samsung Smart LCD) is there any way I can see the resolution NF is currently playing at?

My understanding is that what NF calls Super HD is actually 1080p - not something greater that might be implied by that term, and their 'HD' is 720p.


I believe that SuperHD is 1080p at higher bit rate then standard 1080p.

I use an AppleTV hard wired via Astrill VPN and get SuperHD every time without issue.


How can you tell? I've tried fiddling with the Apple TV but can't find any way to find out the streaming quality.
Or are you just judging it by eye?


 You may like to look at this:

http://www.netflixfixer.com/2013/03/6-things-you-should-know-about-netflix.html


What does that article have to do with my question?


I thought you were asking "How can you tell [that SuperHD is 1080p at higher bit rate then standard 1080p]?". The page I linked says "Netflix "Super HD" is at the same 1080p maximum resolution, but delivers a clearer picture by using more bandwidth (think high quality jpeg vs low quality jpeg that are the same resolution, but the one with better quality is a larger file)."

I now see that you were probably asking "How can NPM tell he's getting SuperHD every time".

Apologies.



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  Reply # 1076059 28-Jun-2014 14:30
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vexxxboy:
eracode:
vexxxboy: ok just found out you need to download the netflix windows 8 app to get Super HD . off to experiment .


What about us plebs who are still on W7 (serious question)?


im on W7 for my main PC and it looks like 3000kbps is maximum and i tried to find the W8 app for my laptop and everytime i go to the store to download it i cant find it , even though it's meant to be there. If anyone has downloaded the App, could they tell me how. Thanks.



On my W8.1 htpc I  changed location of my store to USA and downloaded Netflix App for W8.1 
I didn't have to use geo blocking or similar.

However when I connected to Netflix to stream I'm hidden by VPN.

A.

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  Reply # 1076073 28-Jun-2014 15:17
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afe66:
vexxxboy:
eracode:
vexxxboy: ok just found out you need to download the netflix windows 8 app to get Super HD . off to experiment .


What about us plebs who are still on W7 (serious question)?


im on W7 for my main PC and it looks like 3000kbps is maximum and i tried to find the W8 app for my laptop and everytime i go to the store to download it i cant find it , even though it's meant to be there. If anyone has downloaded the App, could they tell me how. Thanks.



On my W8.1 htpc I  changed location of my store to USA and downloaded Netflix App for W8.1 
I didn't have to use geo blocking or similar.

However when I connected to Netflix to stream I'm hidden by VPN.

A.


thanks that worked.

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  Reply # 1076109 28-Jun-2014 16:14
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Anyone know how to get full 1080hd on mac? On PS3/4 it goes to full hd really quick and seems to start most videos around 720p. 

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  Reply # 1076113 28-Jun-2014 16:25
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eracode:
NonprayingMantis:
eracode:
NonprayingMantis:
geekiegeek:
eracode: I am also interested to see answers to this and hope you won't mind if I add a question.

When watching Netflix on TV (two-year-old Samsung Smart LCD) is there any way I can see the resolution NF is currently playing at?

My understanding is that what NF calls Super HD is actually 1080p - not something greater that might be implied by that term, and their 'HD' is 720p.


I believe that SuperHD is 1080p at higher bit rate then standard 1080p.

I use an AppleTV hard wired via Astrill VPN and get SuperHD every time without issue.


How can you tell? I've tried fiddling with the Apple TV but can't find any way to find out the streaming quality.
Or are you just judging it by eye?


 You may like to look at this:

http://www.netflixfixer.com/2013/03/6-things-you-should-know-about-netflix.html


What does that article have to do with my question?


I thought you were asking "How can you tell [that SuperHD is 1080p at higher bit rate then standard 1080p]?". The page I linked says "Netflix "Super HD" is at the same 1080p maximum resolution, but delivers a clearer picture by using more bandwidth (think high quality jpeg vs low quality jpeg that are the same resolution, but the one with better quality is a larger file)."

I now see that you were probably asking "How can NPM tell he's getting SuperHD every time".

Apologies.




With Netflix,   HD = 780p,   Super HD = 1080p.

there is no 1080p on Netflix that isn't 'Super HD'.  Super HD is the name Netflix uses for 1080p.


The article you posted is just full of wrong information sadly.

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  Reply # 1076114 28-Jun-2014 16:26
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benokobi: Anyone know how to get full 1080hd on mac? On PS3/4 it goes to full hd really quick and seems to start most videos around 720p. 


you can't.   Browser based streaming on Netflix only goes up to 720p.
the win8 app has 1080p (super HD) but not via the browser.

It's likely something to do with DRM and studios being a bunch of "see you next tuesday's"

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  Reply # 1076125 28-Jun-2014 16:30
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NonprayingMantis:
With Netflix,   HD = 780p,   Super HD = 1080p.

there is no 1080p on Netflix that isn't 'Super HD'.  Super HD is the name Netflix uses for 1080p.


The article you posted is just full of wrong information sadly.


I don't believe this is correct. SuperHD is 5800kbps. 4300Kbps is also 1080p, but it is not by definition 'Super'.

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  Reply # 1076126 28-Jun-2014 16:35
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fahrenheit:
NonprayingMantis:
With Netflix,   HD = 780p,   Super HD = 1080p.

there is no 1080p on Netflix that isn't 'Super HD'.  Super HD is the name Netflix uses for 1080p.


The article you posted is just full of wrong information sadly.


I don't believe this is correct. SuperHD is 5800kbps. 4300Kbps is also 1080p, but it is not by definition 'Super'.


http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2013/09/netflix-doubles-video-quality-making-6mbps-superhd-streams-available-everyone.html

It's Netflix's own definition. 

"Previously, Netflix highest quality video, available to those with ISPs not in the Open Connect program, was encoded at 3850Kbps. With SuperHD, video is encoded at 4300Kbps and 5800Kbps and adding the audio bitrate brings SuperHD encodes to about 4.5Mbps and 6.0Mbps. Netflix is essentially doubling the quality of their video, for a limited amount of their content. Currently any 1080p version of Apple TV and Roku supports SuperHD as well as the PS3, Nintendo Wii U, TiVo Premiere and Windows 8 app. Note that SuperHD is not available via computer browsers and can only be seen on the PC for those that use the Windows 8 app."

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  Reply # 1076129 28-Jun-2014 16:48
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NonprayingMantis:
fahrenheit:
NonprayingMantis:
With Netflix,   HD = 780p,   Super HD = 1080p.

there is no 1080p on Netflix that isn't 'Super HD'.  Super HD is the name Netflix uses for 1080p.


The article you posted is just full of wrong information sadly.


I don't believe this is correct. SuperHD is 5800kbps. 4300Kbps is also 1080p, but it is not by definition 'Super'.


http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2013/09/netflix-doubles-video-quality-making-6mbps-superhd-streams-available-everyone.html

It's Netflix's own definition.


http://blog.netflix.com/2013/09/highest-quality-hd-now-available-to-all.html

"This means that the great TV shows and movies on Netflix will look even better on HD screens with a higher bit rate stream, Super HD, that applies less compression to the 1080p image."

Considering 4300 and 5800 are the only two 1080p compressions, Netflix's own definition backs up what I have said.

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  Reply # 1076138 28-Jun-2014 17:25
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fahrenheit:
NonprayingMantis:
fahrenheit:
NonprayingMantis:
With Netflix,   HD = 780p,   Super HD = 1080p.

there is no 1080p on Netflix that isn't 'Super HD'.  Super HD is the name Netflix uses for 1080p.


The article you posted is just full of wrong information sadly.


I don't believe this is correct. SuperHD is 5800kbps. 4300Kbps is also 1080p, but it is not by definition 'Super'.


http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2013/09/netflix-doubles-video-quality-making-6mbps-superhd-streams-available-everyone.html

It's Netflix's own definition.


http://blog.netflix.com/2013/09/highest-quality-hd-now-available-to-all.html

"This means that the great TV shows and movies on Netflix will look even better on HD screens with a higher bit rate stream, Super HD, that applies less compression to the 1080p image."

Considering 4300 and 5800 are the only two 1080p compressions, Netflix's own definition backs up what I have said.


But as per the bit I quoted,  they class both of those bitrates as 'super HD' though.  

IOW it is what I said, which is that there is no '1080p'  on Netflix that isn't 'Super HD'


It doesn't go   720p HD->1080p HD->1080p Super HD

It goes   720p HD -> 1080p Super HD -> 1080p Super HD (with a different bitrate)




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