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  Reply # 1199330 17-Dec-2014 16:41
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LazyDr: 

I'm not here to argue, and if I've come across as deluded or arrogant, that wasn't my intention, and I'll apologize for that. However, as I said, I don't have an expectation, I'm merely asking the question in case help is available. The only assumption I think I've made at this point, is that the equipment I have, while difficult to use as an amateur, is probably capable of doing what I'm asking, and that someone might be able to assist me in doing that.

If you, as a more knowledgeable person in this area, tell me that what I'm asking is just not possible, then that's helpful. It seems from my own internet research that it is possible though, and I figure I must just be doing something wrong along the way while trying to set it up


If what you posted earlier is right, you're using the the modem\router that Telecom gave you when you signed up, aka the cheapest unit they could deliver.  I wouldn't assume that it can do what you want it to do unless you can find it in the manufacturers manual as being supported.  It certainly isn't in the manual on the Spark site.

If you've tried the Getflix instructions and they don't work, you can look at some of the VPN providers as they also have good detailed instructions.  if you don't find anything that contradicts Getflix's instructions, there's two possibilities, either your configuration isn't sticking or it isn't going to over come the access control.



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  Reply # 1200187 18-Dec-2014 21:23
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Persistence won out in the end, i have Netflix working on everything again, and as an added bonus due to needing to learn how to re-route the Google DNS servers, i can watch it on my Chromecast now too.

Maybe i'm the only one using the supplied "Spark" Technicolor modem still, but that would surprise me (?delusional), and so i'm going to explain what worked in the end on the off chance someone else is having the same issue.

Telnet 192.168.1.254, then once logged in, use the following:

ip rtadd dns=8.8.8.8/32 gateway=127.0.0.1 intf=LocalNetwork
ip rtadd dns=8.8.4.4/32 gateway=127.0.0.1 intf=LocalNetwork
saveall

If i used gateway=192.168.1.254 as per most of the online instructions, ping 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 would only result in 50% packet loss, but using the above i finally got 100% with all requests timing out

Thanks to the people who tried to help

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  Reply # 1200190 18-Dec-2014 21:30
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What instructions had 192.168.1.254?  That makes very little sense.

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  Reply # 1200215 18-Dec-2014 21:56
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If I Google "technicolor static route", then these three are just a selection of what comes up on the first page:

https://support.unlocator.com/customer/portal/articles/1501508-how-to-set-up-technicolor-router-for-chromecast

http://www.ichi.co.uk/post/48639683521/adding-a-static-route-on-a-technicolor-tg582n

https://community.plus.net/forum/index.php?topic=123894.0

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  Reply # 1200433 19-Dec-2014 10:49
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I can only assume they're picking what they expect to be unused addresses for the route to make the DNS lookup fail.  It's a pity they don't state their assumptions.

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  Reply # 1200456 19-Dec-2014 11:13
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What would happen if you routed 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 to the Getflix (or Unotelly etc.) DNS servers?

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  Reply # 1200487 19-Dec-2014 11:36
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trig42: What would happen if you routed 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 to the Getflix (or Unotelly etc.) DNS servers?


Doesn't work that way.

You can NAT them to those addresses (I do that on my Cisco - NATting the outgoing DNS requests to GetFlix).

You can only route to hops accessible to your router - so internally or to the gateway. The gateway then routes it on. In the case of a DSL router, it just won't work.

Analogy:

NATing = taking a letter addressed to Bob, changing address to Jane and sending it on.

Routing = taking a letter addressed to Bob, giving it to Frank to deliver to Jane - either Frank knows how to get to Bob or he will just throw it away - but it is still addressed to Bob.

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  Reply # 1202020 22-Dec-2014 13:35
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Hi, 

I haven't got my Roku yet but one of my friends has just in the last few days struck this problem. Ive got a good setup with Apple Airport to cover the whole house so Im not very keen on mucking around with that. I wondered if I could go for something like http://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/WNR2000.aspx and simply connect it to the main network lan to wan and create wireless just for the Roku with the static routing setup. Just wondered if anyone had any suggestions.

Cheers =)

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  Reply # 1202365 22-Dec-2014 22:31
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Colourfyre: Hi, 

I haven't got my Roku yet but one of my friends has just in the last few days struck this problem. Ive got a good setup with Apple Airport to cover the whole house so Im not very keen on mucking around with that. I wondered if I could go for something like http://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/WNR2000.aspx and simply connect it to the main network lan to wan and create wireless just for the Roku with the static routing setup. Just wondered if anyone had any suggestions.

Cheers =)


I had a similar set up for a while, but the problem you may run in to is that there is a lot of cool stuff the Roku can do, as long as it's on the same network as you and your other computers. e.g. there's a Roku app for your smartphone that controls it over WiFi; you can add the Plex app which can stream content from other computers on the network; there's a built-in DLNA player that needs all devices to be on the same network; you can 'cast' YouTube videos from your phone to the Roku; etc... these all need the Roku to be on the same network as your other devices. The best solution I found was to use a router with DD-WRT which lets you set DHCP options for specific devices - e.g. your Roku can be assigned different DNS servers to the rest of your network.

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  Reply # 1202874 23-Dec-2014 19:46
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LazyDr: Persistence won out in the end, i have Netflix working on everything again, and as an added bonus due to needing to learn how to re-route the Google DNS servers, i can watch it on my Chromecast now too.

Maybe i'm the only one using the supplied "Spark" Technicolor modem still, but that would surprise me (?delusional), and so i'm going to explain what worked in the end on the off chance someone else is having the same issue.

Telnet 192.168.1.254, then once logged in, use the following:

ip rtadd dns=8.8.8.8/32 gateway=127.0.0.1 intf=LocalNetwork
ip rtadd dns=8.8.4.4/32 gateway=127.0.0.1 intf=LocalNetwork
saveall

If i used gateway=192.168.1.254 as per most of the online instructions, ping 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 would only result in 50% packet loss, but using the above i finally got 100% with all requests timing out

Thanks to the people who tried to help


was that 100% lost? I keep getting 0% loss with destination host unreachable

does anyone here have the default energy imports vdsl modem from slingshot?



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  Reply # 1203181 24-Dec-2014 13:28
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My memory is it was 100% loss, but at work currently so can't confirm right now

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  Reply # 1204360 27-Dec-2014 09:26
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Hi, long time lurker, first post, etc. ;)

So I've been using Slingshot's Global Mode, and it has stopped working this week as well. I've routed Google DNS to a non-existent address on my LAN, and it's still picking up that I'm not in the US. Any other ideas?

PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2

traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 10.2.1.254 0.798 ms 0.530 ms 0.438 ms
2 * * *
3 * * *


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  Reply # 1204461 27-Dec-2014 12:18
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jaknz: Hi, long time lurker, first post, etc. ;)

So I've been using Slingshot's Global Mode, and it has stopped working this week as well. I've routed Google DNS to a non-existent address on my LAN, and it's still picking up that I'm not in the US. Any other ideas?

PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2

traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 10.2.1.254 0.798 ms 0.530 ms 0.438 ms
2 * * *
3 * * *



My ping traceroutes come up with a destination host unreachable instead of timeouts
I did a static route from google's DNS to the address of my router (192.168.1.2) and it works fine.

C:\Windows\System32>tracert 8.8.8.8

Tracing route to google-public-dns-a.google.com [8.8.8.8]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.2
2 192.168.1.2 reports: Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Windows\System32>ping 8.8.8.8

Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.2: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.168.1.2: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.168.1.2: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.168.1.2: Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

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  Reply # 1204472 27-Dec-2014 12:48
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Where possible, I would recommend using a router than can run third party routing software such as OpenWRT/Gargoyle/DD-WRT or similar. 

That way, you can do two things:

1. Filter just requests for *.netflix.com and similar to use your DNS proxy service (eg unblock-us) while all other domains are resolved by your normal DNS servers. This reduces the possibility of your traffic being hijacked by a rogue proxy service or host. 

2. You can have just certain LAN hosts forced to use your DNS servers instead of any hard coded servers, by using iptables to transparently redirect all port 53 traffic (DNS) to a certain host. 

I have Gargoyle on my WNDR3800, and I use dnsmasq to make all netflix and hulu DNS lookups be resolved by unblock-us. I also have an iptables rule to force all UDP traffic to port 53 (ie all DNS query traffic) from my Roku to be directed to dnsmasq on the router. 

Obviously not practical for everyone, but adds a lot of flexibility if you are able to do so. 

FWIW, it seems that Roku hard coded 8.8.8.8 as a secondary DNS server back in October, and just recently Netflix somehow made their app start using the secondary, or perhaps forcing a comparison lookup or something, such that the DNS queries were always against 8.8.8.8 ><

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