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  Reply # 1230725 3-Feb-2015 19:26
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sen8or: Will people happily consume more than 1 provider?

Netflix + lightbox +/- $30 vs skytv at >$48 it's still very good value


Yes. We currently subscribe to three (Netflix, Hulu & Lightbox)

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  Reply # 1230732 3-Feb-2015 19:49
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bagheera:
BigPipeNZ:
MileHighKiwi:
BigPipeNZ:
Take Roku for example. No major store in NZ stocks it AFAIK, and it can only be imported. 


An interesting development in recent weeks is that Amazon are now shipping the Roku directly to NZ. When I purchased mine 6 months ago I had to use YouShop. I wonder how long until we see a retailer selling it here?

The Roku in NZ is currently being used by innovators and early adopters but as *we* talk to our friends and colleagues more and more people will start adopting this technology. I have convinced 3 people to buy a Roku in the last month alone.

You make a good point about building for what NZers are currently using but I think future technologies need to be accounted for sooner than later.


sure, but which would you prioritise?  Devices you know that Nzers already have,  or devices they might buy in the future?

The one thing that light box need now that it does not have is a cheapish box that you plug into your TV and give you light box. My brother ask me what his option was to get it to his tv, best option would be currently a ps3, but don't want a gaming box. Happy to pay for a apple TV tho.

He ended up going OK no light box then, even tho it free as he a xtra user
Samsung BD-H5500 will do it: http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=2554620

from $148. Plays Blurays too (and, will do TVNZ and TV3 ondemand).


Samsung player needs to have the real smart hub I don't think the 5500 will do it 

This one will http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=2554619

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  Reply # 1230745 3-Feb-2015 20:31
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sen8or: Will people happily consume more than 1 provider?

Netflix + lightbox +/- $30 vs skytv at >$48 it's still very good value


Heck, even Netflix plus lightbox plus neon is about the same price as simply sky basic, but has so many reasons to prefer it.

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  Reply # 1230908 4-Feb-2015 07:40
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Not to mention adding "multi room" to Netflix can be done for a one up cost of $59 per Chromecast, no HD ticket etc etc

Free light box is great but I'm not sure I would feel comfortable paying full price for it, but coupled with Netflix I will be canceling sky quick smart upon release

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  Reply # 1230960 4-Feb-2015 10:04
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Stan:
trig42:
bagheera:
BigPipeNZ:
MileHighKiwi:
BigPipeNZ:
Take Roku for example. No major store in NZ stocks it AFAIK, and it can only be imported. 


An interesting development in recent weeks is that Amazon are now shipping the Roku directly to NZ. When I purchased mine 6 months ago I had to use YouShop. I wonder how long until we see a retailer selling it here?

The Roku in NZ is currently being used by innovators and early adopters but as *we* talk to our friends and colleagues more and more people will start adopting this technology. I have convinced 3 people to buy a Roku in the last month alone.

You make a good point about building for what NZers are currently using but I think future technologies need to be accounted for sooner than later.


sure, but which would you prioritise?  Devices you know that Nzers already have,  or devices they might buy in the future?

The one thing that light box need now that it does not have is a cheapish box that you plug into your TV and give you light box. My brother ask me what his option was to get it to his tv, best option would be currently a ps3, but don't want a gaming box. Happy to pay for a apple TV tho.

He ended up going OK no light box then, even tho it free as he a xtra user
Samsung BD-H5500 will do it: http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=2554620

from $148. Plays Blurays too (and, will do TVNZ and TV3 ondemand).


Samsung player needs to have the real smart hub I don't think the 5500 will do it 

This one will http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=2554619

H
appy to be corrected if I am wrong


Pretty sure it has full SmartHub - UK Version has Netflix advertised (and iPlayer)

NZ Version has SmartHub: http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/tv-audio-video/blu-ray-player/blu-ray-player/BD-H5500/XY  With 'Hundreds' of great Apps :0

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NonprayingMantis:
sen8or: Will people happily consume more than 1 provider?

Netflix + lightbox +/- $30 vs skytv at >$48 it's still very good value


Heck, even Netflix plus lightbox plus neon is about the same price as simply sky basic, but has so many reasons to prefer it.


If only there was a cheap way to stream the Rugby (I'd really only want the internationals, but S15 and NPC would be fine too). And no, Sky, $299 for a season of S15 is not cheap.

I will investigate if there are overseas sources for streaming, that UnoTelly can help me with.

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  Reply # 1231297 4-Feb-2015 18:18
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trig42:
NonprayingMantis:
sen8or: Will people happily consume more than 1 provider?

Netflix + lightbox +/- $30 vs skytv at >$48 it's still very good value


Heck, even Netflix plus lightbox plus neon is about the same price as simply sky basic, but has so many reasons to prefer it.


If only there was a cheap way to stream the Rugby (I'd really only want the internationals, but S15 and NPC would be fine too). And no, Sky, $299 for a season of S15 is not cheap.

I will investigate if there are overseas sources for streaming, that UnoTelly can help me with.

For Rugby Union http://www.rugby.livesport.tv/
For NRL Rugby League http://new.livestream.com/nrl
I forgot to add both will require Unotelly or similar services.


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  Reply # 1231437 4-Feb-2015 23:08
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trig42:
Stan:
trig42:
bagheera:
BigPipeNZ:
MileHighKiwi:
BigPipeNZ:
Take Roku for example. No major store in NZ stocks it AFAIK, and it can only be imported. 


An interesting development in recent weeks is that Amazon are now shipping the Roku directly to NZ. When I purchased mine 6 months ago I had to use YouShop. I wonder how long until we see a retailer selling it here?

The Roku in NZ is currently being used by innovators and early adopters but as *we* talk to our friends and colleagues more and more people will start adopting this technology. I have convinced 3 people to buy a Roku in the last month alone.

You make a good point about building for what NZers are currently using but I think future technologies need to be accounted for sooner than later.


sure, but which would you prioritise?  Devices you know that Nzers already have,  or devices they might buy in the future?

The one thing that light box need now that it does not have is a cheapish box that you plug into your TV and give you light box. My brother ask me what his option was to get it to his tv, best option would be currently a ps3, but don't want a gaming box. Happy to pay for a apple TV tho.

He ended up going OK no light box then, even tho it free as he a xtra user
Samsung BD-H5500 will do it: http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=2554620

from $148. Plays Blurays too (and, will do TVNZ and TV3 ondemand).


Samsung player needs to have the real smart hub I don't think the 5500 will do it 

This one will http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=2554619

H
appy to be corrected if I am wrong


Pretty sure it has full SmartHub - UK Version has Netflix advertised (and iPlayer)

NZ Version has SmartHub: http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/tv-audio-video/blu-ray-player/blu-ray-player/BD-H5500/XY  With 'Hundreds' of great Apps :0


It may support netflix but not tvnz on demand or lightbox because its not the official samsung smart hub


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GeekGuy:
trig42:
NonprayingMantis:
sen8or: Will people happily consume more than 1 provider?

Netflix + lightbox +/- $30 vs skytv at >$48 it's still very good value


Heck, even Netflix plus lightbox plus neon is about the same price as simply sky basic, but has so many reasons to prefer it.


If only there was a cheap way to stream the Rugby (I'd really only want the internationals, but S15 and NPC would be fine too). And no, Sky, $299 for a season of S15 is not cheap.

I will investigate if there are overseas sources for streaming, that UnoTelly can help me with.

For Rugby Union http://www.rugby.livesport.tv/
For NRL Rugby League http://new.livestream.com/nrl
I forgot to add both will require Unotelly or similar services.



The cheapest way is just to stop watching the live 30 men chasing a leather ball thing for 80 minutes.

Watch it delayed, go to a mates house, read it in the paper the next day

The hardest thing was figuring out common ground of what to talk about with colleagues etc on a Monday

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nathan: 
The cheapest way is just to stop watching the live 30 men chasing a leather ball thing for 80 minutes.

Watch it delayed, go to a mates house, read it in the paper the next day

The hardest thing was figuring out common ground of what to talk about with colleagues etc on a Monday


I gave up my Sky Sports sub when my wife told me how much it cost (she handles the finances, and I mistakenly thought it was only a $10 add-on). I'd generally tape the game and watch it when she went to bed anyway, so switching to Prime was a no-brainer for me.

I do miss being able to catch Super Rugby games when I want to, but not enough to pay what Sky are asking for their service. Instead I head down to Eden Park for the occasional game.

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  Reply # 1231495 5-Feb-2015 08:42
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BigPipeNZ:

Yeah chromecast (~$60) would be nice, but a second hand ps3 is really not that expensive at all (about the same as an apple TV actually, and it doubles as a blu-ray and gaming console as a bonus, even if you don't want that, you might do in the future)

e.g.  http://www.trademe.co.nz/gaming/playstation-3/consoles/auction-841862485.htm   $140 buy now.


no thanks - not going there with what about CGA?, why do i have to pay 10 to trademe so i am verify to buy this one but not that one? why do i have pay x to ship it, what happens if the person does not ship it, how do i get my money back? questions - alot easier to say forget lightbox then. As i say - if you do not have new samsung tv, or have a ipad or palystaion, then there no cheap option to get it to the TV and lots of none tech people will go stuff it then. Lightbox will need to sort that this month or people will look at netflix as a option - i know my brother is.

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  Reply # 1246417 25-Feb-2015 14:21
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Given the date that Netflix launches in NZ is getting close, witnessed by the publicity machine ramping up (eg John Drinnan's column in today's Herald), do we know how any of the DNS services and local ISPs offering 'global mode' will allow users to manage the selection of NZ versus overseas-located Netflix services?

Although it won't impact me (as a user of a DNS service), what will happen to global mode users?

I imagine it will be easier for DNS services, given they already offer the ability for users to select regions - will it be as easy as them adding "New Zealand" as a supported region? If so, has any company announced its plans?

I can see one advantage of this for those sticking with a US-based Netflix account would be access to NZ-specific content (if there's anything unique), but will it also provide a better connection, in that it will source content from NZ-located servers?


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jonathan18: Given the date that Netflix launches in NZ is getting close, witnessed by the publicity machine ramping up (eg John Drinnan's column in today's Herald), do we know how any of the DNS services and local ISPs offering 'global mode' will allow users to manage the selection of NZ versus overseas-located Netflix services?

Although it won't impact me (as a user of a DNS service), what will happen to global mode users?

I imagine it will be easier for DNS services, given they already offer the ability for users to select regions - will it be as easy as them adding "New Zealand" as a supported region? If so, has any company announced its plans?

I can see one advantage of this for those sticking with a US-based Netflix account would be access to NZ-specific content (if there's anything unique), but will it also provide a better connection, in that it will source content from NZ-located servers?



Orcon already has a Selector.

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  Reply # 1246428 25-Feb-2015 14:32
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jonathan18: Given the date that Netflix launches in NZ is getting close, witnessed by the publicity machine ramping up (eg John Drinnan's column in today's Herald), do we know how any of the DNS services and local ISPs offering 'global mode' will allow users to manage the selection of NZ versus overseas-located Netflix services?

Although it won't impact me (as a user of a DNS service), what will happen to global mode users?

I imagine it will be easier for DNS services, given they already offer the ability for users to select regions - will it be as easy as them adding "New Zealand" as a supported region? If so, has any company announced its plans?

I can see one advantage of this for those sticking with a US-based Netflix account would be access to NZ-specific content (if there's anything unique), but will it also provide a better connection, in that it will source content from NZ-located servers?



Slingshot and Orcon have announced they now have 'region switchers' in their global mode products (only 2-3 years behind existing products)  And since every global mode using ISP in NZ except MyRepublic uses the exact same global mode white label product, It's probably only a few weeks before they all do the exact same thing.  (Myrepublic's works in the same way, but was developed independently in Singapore a couple of years ago)

If it works the same as unblock-us,  then whichever region you sign up for Netflix will be your 'primary' account - that's where things like your 'watch later' queue (or whatever it's called) will be stored etc.  When you switch regions, your queue will become unavailable but you'll see the content in that region.

so for those of us who are already Netflix US subscribers, we'll be able to switch to NZ Netflix, but we won't be able to save anything to the queue.
Vice versa, if you sign up to Netflix in NZ, then switch regions to USA, you won't be able to create a 'USA' queue.

This is all based on how it works on unblock-us, so I assume the same for all switchers.


I believe that the region you use is irrelevant in terms of where the content is stored.  i.e. if you watch breaking bad on NZ Netflix it will pull it from NZ servers.  If you watch it on USA Netflix from NZ, it will still pull it from NZ servers.

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  Reply # 1246440 25-Feb-2015 14:49
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NonprayingMantis:  I believe that the region you use is irrelevant in terms of where the content is stored.  i.e. if you watch breaking bad on NZ Netflix it will pull it from NZ servers.  If you watch it on USA Netflix from NZ, it will still pull it from NZ servers.


Interesting - so whereabouts does the content come from for those of us currently using Netflix, given there are not yet any NZ (or Aus) servers - just the closest servers to NZ? And, given what you've said, will there be less of a delay when starting to stream content (and less buffering issues) once servers are located here? (The delay can sometimes be quite long, and certainly was longer than the NZ-located Lightbox when I trialed that, and this is on fibre so I doubt the delays I've experienced are caused within NZ).

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