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# 175008 13-Jun-2015 19:49
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OK I know there already is a post listing legal site for streaming (and supposedly downloading) movies, but I need a bit more help that that post gives.

I have a NetSmart cellular broadband connection that runs at 2-4 mb/sec, so is a total waste of time trying to stream movies, so I have been using the following methods to download movies so I can watch them in "real time":

1) torrent downloads

 

This method is pretty hit and miss really; firstly the only way you can determine the quality of the movie is if there have been any feedback comments, and they are often varied and unhelpful, and secondly, often after downloading the file the dam file wont run! You get error messages about COdex files missing, Windows Media wont run it, so you try VLC, and it still wont run it. Then you search for the missing Codex file and invariable have to buy/subscribe/enter some god dammed scam questionnaire in order to download the missing Codex file, and from many post I have read, that does not solve the problem anyway

 

2) www.Tubeoffline.com to download streamed movies. This method is even more unreliable than using torrents, and is significantly slower, with a 100mg file usually taking longer to download than a 300mb torrent file. Half of the files I have downloaded wont run, or dont complete the download process.

I'm quite happy to pay a reasonable subscription that would enable me to legally downlaod movies, but I have yet to find a single site that will enable me to without buying the movie at full retail price.

So what legal options have the other 40% of New Zealanders who dont live in Auckland who have slow broadband connections  have to watch movies using the internet?

Cheers

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  # 1324197 13-Jun-2015 20:41
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First, I hope you are using legal torrent sources, from the list in the other post. From your comments on quality I would say it is not the case.

Second, reality is the average broadband speed in New Zealand is enough for movie streaming.

Interesting you are using a mobile option. Any reason for not using fixed line or RBI?




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  # 1324258 13-Jun-2015 22:18
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freitasm: Interesting you are using a mobile option. Any reason for not using fixed line or RBI?

NetSmart isn't really "mobile" but it is wireless. I believe that the data caps are much higher than RBI (or at least were before Vodafone released its new offerings).

 
 
 
 


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  # 1324298 14-Jun-2015 00:04
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freitasm: The OP called it "cellular", so...



"WiMax" is what they reference it as so cellular to a degree :)

How about renting the movies off iTunes? Netflix / Lightbox will also work on this kind of connection.




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  # 1324317 14-Jun-2015 08:26
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nzvarminter:
1) torrent downloads This method is pretty hit and miss really; firstly the only way you can determine the quality of the movie is if there have been any feedback comments, and they are often varied and unhelpful, and secondly, often after downloading the file the dam file wont run! You get error messages about COdex files missing, Windows Media wont run it, so you try VLC, and it still wont run it. Then you search for the missing Codex file and invariable have to buy/subscribe/enter some god dammed scam questionnaire in order to download the missing Codex file, and from many post I have read, that does not solve the problem anyway





im guessing you either choose the worst sites to get torrents from or you want then straight away and get a CAM, R5 or Telescreener release, and dont wait around for a WEDRIP or BR/DVD rip. or you get Russian/Chinese/Korean releases. that totally explains the issue.

Codec issue, never once had a file i couldn't play on either WMP or VLC. download k-lite codec pack.



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  # 1324532 14-Jun-2015 18:54
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Unlikely you'll find a site that lets you download movies for less than retail. The reason streaming is cheaper is that you aren't buying the movie, just watching it, and you don't end up owning a copy. If you download to own, then it stands to reason the price is higher.

If your internet is not capable of streaming then I think your best bet is something like Fatso, where you pay a monthly sub and rent the movies you want by mail. Their site says they get movies before they are available to stream.




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  # 1324579 14-Jun-2015 19:43
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nzvarminter: [snip]
So what legal options have the other 40% of New Zealanders who dont live in Auckland who have slow broadband connections  have to watch movies using the internet?


I understand you're frustrated, but you are so far wrong about the number of NZers that can't get a service suitable for streaming it's laughable.

You understand UFB is a national rollout right? There's Gig in Dunedin and it's WAYYYY south of the Bombay Hills. Some places also have VDSL I've heard!

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  # 1324581 14-Jun-2015 19:44
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plus there is RBI which is suitable for streaming.



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  # 1324610 14-Jun-2015 20:30
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Thanks for the feedback guys.

Frietasm, I have no idea which torrent sites are "legal" or otherwise. Nobody makes any clear declarations of that they are doing on the web, many of the "legal" sites try and rip you off with misleading "free" trials that you end up paying for, and i have even had to pay to cancel one of them!

I guess my connection speed is not "normal". I'm in an extremely remote location. I say this tough in cheek, as I'm only 5km from the Tauranga urban boundary! but obviously that's too remote for Telecom to provide a cable/fiber connection or Vodafone to provide a wifi connection! They are putting in fiber at the bottom of my road right now, but it wont get to me!

I only had two options, NetSmart or Farmside, and Netsmart offers a much better deal, with local support, which is worth its weight in gold. I can actually talk to their network Engineer!

Jas2895, This whole Torrent thing is so messy, I gather its grown out of a back door solution so its not what I'd call "mainstream" I dont see any reference to torrents on any of the mainstream sites like Neflix/lightbox etc. The only options I see on Netflix is to view online (stream) or buy. So does the buy option give you multiple ways to download the media i.e a single file download or a torrent download??

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  # 1324614 14-Jun-2015 20:37
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there is no such thing as telecom any more, and Spark, the rebranded telecom have nothing to do with the cable/phone connection side of things, thats all done by chorus, or in your case for fibre UFF.

torrents of movies generally are not legal, you dont pay the studio money for it so they are generally deemed to be illegal downloads.

Torrents are not messy if you know what you are looking for, which it sounds like you dont know, and just download.

why would netflix or lightbox mention torrents? they are streaming services, torrents are peer to peer file sharing of legal (small portion of stuff) and illegal (large portion of stuff) between users.

i think you need to google how torrents work as you seem to be missing the fundemental information on how this all works.

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  # 1324623 14-Jun-2015 21:10
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MadEngineer: https://www.youtube.com/user/movies
How do we pay for these?

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  # 1324633 14-Jun-2015 21:28
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By credit card, etc I assume, and doesn't appear to be geolocked


To purchase YouTube paid content, you'll need a YouTube account with Google Wallet activated. If necessary, create a YouTube account, and set up Google Wallet.

 

On your computer

 

 

 

Sign into your YouTube account and follow these steps to make a purchase:

 

     

  1. Visit the video you'd like to purchase and click the button displaying the purchase price.
  2. For some videos, the rental and HD options will be listed. (Note that HD might only be available for certain devices.) For movie rentals, your movie will be available for the duration of the rental period after you start watching it for the first time. Purchases will be available to watch as many times as you like and don't expire.
  3. If you have a coupon to redeem, click Enter promotional code to show the promotional code field. Enter your code and click the  arrow, then click the appropriate purchase button to continue.
  4. Select the payment method you wish to use from Google Wallet, or add a new payment method, then click Buyto finish the transaction.
  5. Once your payment has gone through, you'll receive a purchase confirmation.
  6. You can find all the videos you've purchased by visiting youtube.com/purchases while signed into your account.

 

 


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  # 1324637 14-Jun-2015 21:36
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We're on a wireless provider which can stream but without huge caps, we also have quite a few users on the property so I prefer physical media from Fatso rather than monopolising peak time bandwidth. We're on a grandfathered plan which is a bit of a better deal than their current offerings though.



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  # 1324639 14-Jun-2015 21:42
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Yes I understand about the Govt Ultrafast Broadband initiative....

The UFB Initiative is bringing faster, better internet to 80% of New Zealanders in their homes, schools, hospitals, marae and businesses – including all rural public hospitals and schools, and many libraries.

Because UFB isn’t feasible for every rural community, broadband internet using existing infrastructure with peak speeds of 5Mbps (megabits per second) is being provided to more than 90% of homes and businesses outside of UFB areas.

Government has partnered with Chorus and Vodafone to deliver the first phase of the RBI. Together, they are building 154 new wireless towers and upgrading 387 existing ones, upgrading or installing over 1,000 rural telecommunications cabinets and extending Chorus’ existing fibre network by about 3,350 kilometres.

 

Chorus and Network Tasman are deploying fibre to provincial schools, rural hospitals, health centres, and public libraries. Network Tasman is also delivering the RBI in Wakefield, Mapua, Motueka, and Picton.

 

Fifty-seven extremely remote schools and their surrounding communities will be connected by Inspire.net, Gisborne.net, Chorus, and Araneo.

 

Telecom/Sparc... who cares what they are called. I dont sign up with Corus, they are just a subcontactor to do the physical infrastructure work. I'll have to sign up with Sparc, Vodafone or a similar ISP. As i have pointed out, I'm only 5km form the Tauranga Urban boundary yet there isnt even an existing cable broadband connection. Vodafone has the area tagged for future coverage, but I've been waiting 2 yrs now, and it looks like they will only being proving wireless coverage so dont expect it will be any better than Netsmart is now and its a lot dearer looking at the plans. 

I'm unclear on whether Netflix do torrent, its just that Fretasm posted that there were legal torrent download sites listed in his post, though its not clear which sites are for streaming or torrent downloads. I just assumed from his post that there are legal torrent download sites for movies???



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