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  #1535838 19-Apr-2016 17:07
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I quit once it got to be a bother to unblock. I'm sure there are 100's of thousands of others done same. Even a 5% drop of a lot of money is a lot of money. Plus it must hurt future growth as well.

Without unblocking TVNZ on demand has more content I'm interested in then Netflix, and at moment they're not to heavy on the adds.


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  #1535855 19-Apr-2016 17:27
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bj99:

 

It appears that Netflix no longer works on Apple TV4 with dns manually set on the device only. (I've tried Unotelly, Getflix and dns4me).
I think the latest version 1.1.0 dated 31st March is the issue. 
Is anyone successfully accessing Netflix via router on ATV4? If so, could you please share your setup?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

have a read here

 

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumId=178&topicId=195170


 
 
 
 


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  #1535893 19-Apr-2016 18:08
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tdgeek: Would not surprise me if they cartelled themselves. Maybe some may merge.

 

 

 

Either or both are practically inevitable soon, I think. That's why I think the system as a whole needs to be changed - by law - or else they will simply become the Sky Monopoly 2.0.





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  #1535898 19-Apr-2016 18:15
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rugrat: I quit once it got to be a bother to unblock. I'm sure there are 100's of thousands of others done same. Even a 5% drop of a lot of money is a lot of money. Plus it must hurt future growth as well.

Without unblocking TVNZ on demand has more content I'm interested in then Netflix, and at moment they're not to heavy on the adds.

 

Yes, TVNZ is pretty good for me, content-wise. They have most of my favourites all in one place, but usability is the issue for me at the moment. I'd rather watch The 100 in beautiful HD on Hulu via the Apple TV than mess around with the browser on my HTPC. Plus I tend to get a bit behind in viewing and then I've missed my window. If they could get an Apple TV app going, however, I'd get a bit more organised and be using them more than any other service.





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  #1535910 19-Apr-2016 18:36
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tdgeek: Would not surprise me if they cartelled themselves. Maybe some may merge.


 


Either or both are practically inevitable soon, I think. That's why I think the system as a whole needs to be changed - by law - or else they will simply become the Sky Monopoly 2.0.



Lol I hate the sky monopoly comments .:-)

I see the SVOD being you gotta get them all. Ok if it's 4 X $20 but then that's Sky pricing sort of. If law means everyone can have everything another scenario is broadband in NZ. Race to the bottom. Then added value gets added such as Spotify as one example, but I don't see svod having that option. We all hate monopolies but some posts want one guy has it all for nix. That can't work either. Competition works but that causes we need to pay for 4 svod?

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  #1535915 19-Apr-2016 18:46
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tdgeek:
SaltyNZ:

 

tdgeek: Would not surprise me if they cartelled themselves. Maybe some may merge.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Either or both are practically inevitable soon, I think. That's why I think the system as a whole needs to be changed - by law - or else they will simply become the Sky Monopoly 2.0.

 



Lol I hate the sky monopoly comments .:-)

I see the SVOD being you gotta get them all. Ok if it's 4 X $20 but then that's Sky pricing sort of. If law means everyone can have everything another scenario is broadband in NZ. Race to the bottom. Then added value gets added such as Spotify as one example, but I don't see svod having that option. We all hate monopolies but some posts want one guy has it all for nix. That can't work either. Competition works but that causes we need to pay for 4 svod?

 

Why?  How many audio streaming services do you need to subscribe to, to get all music you need?

 

How many DVD/CD stores to get any disc you need?

 

How many bookshops do you need to get as many books as you need?

 

How many liquor stores do you need to visit to get any type of wine you need?

 

Why is there this presumption that SVOD only works with exclusivity, when every other model works without it?


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  #1535938 19-Apr-2016 19:07
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tdgeek:
SaltyNZ:


tdgeek: Would not surprise me if they cartelled themselves. Maybe some may merge.


 


 


 


Either or both are practically inevitable soon, I think. That's why I think the system as a whole needs to be changed - by law - or else they will simply become the Sky Monopoly 2.0.




Lol I hate the sky monopoly comments .:-)

I see the SVOD being you gotta get them all. Ok if it's 4 X $20 but then that's Sky pricing sort of. If law means everyone can have everything another scenario is broadband in NZ. Race to the bottom. Then added value gets added such as Spotify as one example, but I don't see svod having that option. We all hate monopolies but some posts want one guy has it all for nix. That can't work either. Competition works but that causes we need to pay for 4 svod?


Why?  How many audio streaming services do you need to subscribe to, to get all music you need?


How many DVD/CD stores to get any disc you need?


How many bookshops do you need to get as many books as you need?


How many liquor stores do you need to visit to get any type of wine you need?


Why is there this presumption that SVOD only works with exclusivity, when every other model works without it?



You want to buy a Dodge Viper do you go to Honda Cars?

If you want free Spotify do you go to slingshot?

Exclusivity is a means to added value .its competition .

 
 
 
 


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  #1535950 19-Apr-2016 19:28
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You want to buy a Dodge Viper do you go to Honda Cars?

If you want free Spotify do you go to slingshot?

Exclusivity is a means to added value .its competition .

 

Seriously, is that really the best answer you can provide?  An obscure car that I could get from any number of dealers or import myself, and a specific deal on a music service?

 

I think my point must be proven then


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  #1535964 19-Apr-2016 19:46
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shk292:

tdgeek
You want to buy a Dodge Viper do you go to Honda Cars?

If you want free Spotify do you go to slingshot?

Exclusivity is a means to added value .its competition .


Seriously, is that really the best answer you can provide?  An obscure car that I could get from any number of dealers or import myself, and a specific deal on a music service?


I think my point must be proven then



Oh dear. It was merely one iorvteo examples of many

A viper is not obscure and Spotify is a top brand.

Are you advocating zero competition?

On these forum competition is advocated. That's what we have

Or do you prefer a more socialist approach?

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  #1535967 19-Apr-2016 19:51
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Your comparing deals that have no requirement for exclusivity with those that do. You can buy a Dodge Viper from many places? Nice . I'm looking for one

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  #1535982 19-Apr-2016 20:09
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Oh dear. It was merely one iorvteo examples of many

A viper is not obscure and Spotify is a top brand.

Are you advocating zero competition?

On these forum competition is advocated. That's what we have

Or do you prefer a more socialist approach?

 

No, I'm a great believer in competition, that's why I don't like exclusive arrangements and geographical monopolies.  I believe companies should compete in the global marketplace by adding value to their inputs to produce a product that consumers want to buy.  Not by taking legal or technical action to ensure that segments of the global market have no choice from whom they buy.

 

A Viper is pretty obscure in NZ, presumably that's why you're looking for one?  And yes, I'm a Spotify subscriber; I chose them because I think they offer the best value for the mix of music I like, and they have some features that make their package attractive.  Not because that's the only way I can listen to say EMI music in NZ.  If it was, I'd find other means


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  #1535996 19-Apr-2016 20:25
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shk292:

 

No, I'm a great believer in competition, that's why I don't like exclusive arrangements and geographical monopolies.  I believe companies should compete in the global marketplace by adding value to their inputs to produce a product that consumers want to buy.  Not by taking legal or technical action to ensure that segments of the global market have no choice from whom they buy.

 

A Viper is pretty obscure in NZ, presumably that's why you're looking for one?  And yes, I'm a Spotify subscriber; I chose them because I think they offer the best value for the mix of music I like, and they have some features that make their package attractive.  Not because that's the only way I can listen to say EMI music in NZ.  If it was, I'd find other means

 

 

+1 for one of the more incisive and intelligent comments on this thread.

 

 





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  #1535999 19-Apr-2016 20:28
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shk292:

 

No, I'm a great believer in competition, that's why I don't like exclusive arrangements and geographical monopolies.  I believe companies should compete in the global marketplace by adding value to their inputs to produce a product that consumers want to buy.  Not by taking legal or technical action to ensure that segments of the global market have no choice from whom they buy.

 

A Viper is pretty obscure in NZ, presumably that's why you're looking for one?  And yes, I'm a Spotify subscriber; I chose them because I think they offer the best value for the mix of music I like, and they have some features that make their package attractive.  Not because that's the only way I can listen to say EMI music in NZ.  If it was, I'd find other means

 

 

+1 for one of the more incisive and intelligent comments on this thread.

 

 

 

 

Geez. You want competition or not? Not it seems. Monopoly. Thats certainly an option but not favoured by many


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  #1536010 19-Apr-2016 20:35
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tdgeek:

 



Oh dear. It was merely one iorvteo examples of many

A viper is not obscure and Spotify is a top brand.

Are you advocating zero competition?

On these forum competition is advocated. That's what we have

Or do you prefer a more socialist approach?

 

No, I'm a great believer in competition, that's why I don't like exclusive arrangements and geographical monopolies.  I believe companies should compete in the global marketplace by adding value to their inputs to produce a product that consumers want to buy.  Not by taking legal or technical action to ensure that segments of the global market have no choice from whom they buy.

 

A Viper is pretty obscure in NZ, presumably that's why you're looking for one?  And yes, I'm a Spotify subscriber; I chose them because I think they offer the best value for the mix of music I like, and they have some features that make their package attractive.  Not because that's the only way I can listen to say EMI music in NZ.  If it was, I'd find other means

 

 

Many add value. Thats exclusive, you can only get to here, so buy me. if you want everyone to have everything, where is the competition? Its not there. Factor in that if everyone has everything, you pay the cost. In fact the cost should be quite low as there is no motivation to pay heaps for exclusive content, or for advertisers to pay premium which subsidises it. It seems to me that you want what suits you, but your not prepared for the cost? The creators probably don't care. Its the SVOD that is creating competition, so buy me. OTOH it seems normal, competition. Yet some want it all for nix? Enlighten me.  


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  #1536014 19-Apr-2016 20:36
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Rikkitic:

 

shk292:

 

No, I'm a great believer in competition, that's why I don't like exclusive arrangements and geographical monopolies.  I believe companies should compete in the global marketplace by adding value to their inputs to produce a product that consumers want to buy.  Not by taking legal or technical action to ensure that segments of the global market have no choice from whom they buy.

 

A Viper is pretty obscure in NZ, presumably that's why you're looking for one?  And yes, I'm a Spotify subscriber; I chose them because I think they offer the best value for the mix of music I like, and they have some features that make their package attractive.  Not because that's the only way I can listen to say EMI music in NZ.  If it was, I'd find other means

 

 

+1 for one of the more incisive and intelligent comments on this thread.

 

 

 

 

Where is the  added value can you foresee? Given that you want everyone to provide everything? 


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