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steve2222
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  #1812637 4-Jul-2017 15:21
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jat80:

 

Works for me fine as well.

 

 

 

 

I am not at home till tonight so can not take a photo of my TV.

 

 

 

But this article (and the picture) reflect exactly what is appearing on my TV (Android app) and iPhone app as of this morning.

 

 

 

In other words I no longer have the "i'll do it later" option.

 

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/bbc-iplayer-sign-in-register-licence-fee-tv-radio-programmes-streaming-a7798691.html

 

 

 

Suspect that this change was 'sleeping' inside the app since the last update to be activated either 1 July, or maybe on a rolled out basis (since some of you seem to still have access without a forced login).


 
 
 

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  #1812821 4-Jul-2017 19:25
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steve2222:

 

jat80:

 

Works for me fine as well.

 

 

 

 

I am not at home till tonight so can not take a photo of my TV.

 

 

 

But this article (and the picture) reflect exactly what is appearing on my TV (Android app) and iPhone app as of this morning.

 

 

 

In other words I no longer have the "i'll do it later" option.

 

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/bbc-iplayer-sign-in-register-licence-fee-tv-radio-programmes-streaming-a7798691.html

 

 

 

Suspect that this change was 'sleeping' inside the app since the last update to be activated either 1 July, or maybe on a rolled out basis (since some of you seem to still have access without a forced login).

 

 

 

 

My inlaws have registered and have been signing in for 2 months. They never needed to enter a licence number.


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  #1813453 5-Jul-2017 20:17
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Works alright for me on web at home as well - haven't tried Apple TV yet but was working fine a day or two ago.




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  #1813487 5-Jul-2017 22:14
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Apple TV still working here.

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  #1813488 5-Jul-2017 22:30
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The uk really needs to move away from the license fee, and fund it out of general tax, like nz did, so they then don't need to catch anyone out. . Would save so much on collection costs, staff and monitoring. Licensing fees affect low wage people the most. But they are backwards on these types of things

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  #1814291 7-Jul-2017 11:17
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mattwnz: The uk really needs to move away from the license fee, and fund it out of general tax, like nz did, so they then don't need to catch anyone out. . Would save so much on collection costs, staff and monitoring. Licensing fees affect low wage people the most. But they are backwards on these types of things

 

I remember buying my first TV when living in the UK and knew nothing about the license fee.  I was at Argos and when buying it they asked me about the TV license and I just looked at them like they were joking, then when I found out about the price I was like WT??  I think back then it was 120 pounds roughly for the year.  You can spread the payments out over the year which I did.   But I actually didn't mind it after seeing what you get there compared content wise to here in NZ

 

I agree with it somehow being changed in how it's administered but the reason why the BBC have such great content and no ads is because of the license fee.  

 

I personally wouldn't mind it if in NZ we went to that sort of model as well so they can encourage and fund more original kiwi content in film and TV.  But just my 2 cents.






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  #1814292 7-Jul-2017 11:20
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jat80:

 

 

 

I personally wouldn't mind it if in NZ we went to that sort of model as well so they can encourage and fund more original kiwi content in film and TV.  But just my 2 cents.

 

 

I would because I don't find a majority of the content on it to be valuable, and as broadcast TV is a downwards industry then starting to fund it that way is just a short term solution. It's already had to evolve in the UK to cover streaming services, but what about the other stuff that the BBC provide like online news articles etc? Will those need a license fee paid soon too?

 

Just a daft idea to charge people a flat fee for owning an appliance that _may_ be used to receive entertainment services that are blasted out without them really choosing to have them arrive at their property.





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  #1814300 7-Jul-2017 11:27
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jat80:

 

mattwnz: The uk really needs to move away from the license fee, and fund it out of general tax, like nz did, so they then don't need to catch anyone out. . Would save so much on collection costs, staff and monitoring. Licensing fees affect low wage people the most. But they are backwards on these types of things

 

I remember buying my first TV when living in the UK and knew nothing about the license fee.  I was at Argos and when buying it they asked me about the TV license and I just looked at them like they were joking, then when I found out about the price I was like WT??  I think back then it was 120 pounds roughly for the year.  You can spread the payments out over the year which I did.   But I actually didn't mind it after seeing what you get there compared content wise to here in NZ

 

I agree with it somehow being changed in how it's administered but the reason why the BBC have such great content and no ads is because of the license fee.  

 

I personally wouldn't mind it if in NZ we went to that sort of model as well so they can encourage and fund more original kiwi content in film and TV.  But just my 2 cents.

 

 

NZ had a broadcasting fee in the 1990's (maybe '89 ?).  It was scrapped in the late 1990's... maybe '99.... anyway... because there was an uproar about GST being changed on it or something like that.... people saw the broadcasting fee as a tax... so the GST was a tax on a tax... blah blah. 





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  #1814329 7-Jul-2017 12:07
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jat80:

 

 

 

I agree with it somehow being changed in how it's administered but the reason why the BBC have such great content and no ads is because of the license fee.  

 

I personally wouldn't mind it if in NZ we went to that sort of model as well so they can encourage and fund more original kiwi content in film and TV.  But just my 2 cents.

 

 

+1 to this.

 

 


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  #1814346 7-Jul-2017 12:33
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Wiggum:

 

jat80:

 

 

 

I agree with it somehow being changed in how it's administered but the reason why the BBC have such great content and no ads is because of the license fee.  

 

I personally wouldn't mind it if in NZ we went to that sort of model as well so they can encourage and fund more original kiwi content in film and TV.  But just my 2 cents.

 

 

+1 to this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like I said, there used to be one.  It's a very old fashioned system anyway.  It was designed that way because the people that owned TV's were the ones paying for the privilege.

 

I don't personally see the difference if it is funded by a licence fee or general taxes.  Television New Zealand and Radio NZ will still have to run ads.  There there are far fewer people to fund broadcasting in NZ than the UK.





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  #1814352 7-Jul-2017 12:53
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kharris:

 

 

 

Like I said, there used to be one.  It's a very old fashioned system anyway.  It was designed that way because the people that owned TV's were the ones paying for the privilege.

 

 

As I recall it was Lindsay Perigo who spearheaded the campaign to abolish the broadcasting fee, and it involved civil disobedience whereby people refused to pay the fee and some later launched a class action.

 

 

I don't personally see the difference if it is funded by a licence fee or general taxes.  Television New Zealand and Radio NZ will still have to run ads.  There there are far fewer people to fund broadcasting in NZ than the UK.

 

 

Radio NZ does not have ads. It is fully funded by the taxpayer.


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  #1814354 7-Jul-2017 12:59
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alasta:

 

kharris:

 

 

 

Like I said, there used to be one.  It's a very old fashioned system anyway.  It was designed that way because the people that owned TV's were the ones paying for the privilege.

 

 

As I recall it was Lindsay Perigo who spearheaded the campaign to abolish the broadcasting fee, and it involved civil disobedience whereby people refused to pay the fee and some later launched a class action.

 

 

I don't personally see the difference if it is funded by a licence fee or general taxes.  Television New Zealand and Radio NZ will still have to run ads.  There there are far fewer people to fund broadcasting in NZ than the UK.

 

 

Radio NZ does not have ads. It is fully funded by the taxpayer.

 

 

Like I said in my previous post it was abolished because paying GST on top of it was being tested by some.  I wasn't sure if RNZ had adds I don't listen but they are the other entity out of the old BC of NZ.





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  #1815890 8-Jul-2017 15:15
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It is worth noting that Curiosity Stream carries a lot of BBC content. It is very cheap and a good alternative for the day the beeb does become inaccessible. I see paying for Curiosity Stream as a way of paying for the BBC since they license the content legally.

 

 





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  #1815945 8-Jul-2017 16:56
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mattwnz: The uk really needs to move away from the license fee, and fund it out of general tax, like nz did, so they then don't need to catch anyone out. . Would save so much on collection costs, staff and monitoring. Licensing fees affect low wage people the most. But they are backwards on these types of things


I remember buying my first TV when living in the UK and knew nothing about the license fee.  I was at Argos and when buying it they asked me about the TV license and I just looked at them like they were joking, then when I found out about the price I was like WT??  I think back then it was 120 pounds roughly for the year.  You can spread the payments out over the year which I did.   But I actually didn't mind it after seeing what you get there compared content wise to here in NZ


I agree with it somehow being changed in how it's administered but the reason why the BBC have such great content and no ads is because of the license fee.  


I personally wouldn't mind it if in NZ we went to that sort of model as well so they can encourage and fund more original kiwi content in film and TV.  But just my 2 cents.



The amount of funding they get shouldn't change, so in terms of content etc and funding they get, that would all remain. All that changes is that TV set owners don't have to pay directly via a fee, which I suspect has a significant cost to it.

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  #1815946 8-Jul-2017 17:02
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kharris:

alasta:


kharris:


 


Like I said, there used to be one.  It's a very old fashioned system anyway.  It was designed that way because the people that owned TV's were the ones paying for the privilege.



As I recall it was Lindsay Perigo who spearheaded the campaign to abolish the broadcasting fee, and it involved civil disobedience whereby people refused to pay the fee and some later launched a class action.



I don't personally see the difference if it is funded by a licence fee or general taxes.  Television New Zealand and Radio NZ will still have to run ads.  There there are far fewer people to fund broadcasting in NZ than the UK.



Radio NZ does not have ads. It is fully funded by the taxpayer.



Like I said in my previous post it was abolished because paying GST on top of it was being tested by some.  I wasn't sure if RNZ had adds I don't listen but they are the other entity out of the old BC of NZ.



People already pay taxes on top of taxes in other areas. Rates for example are a property tax, which you also have to pay gst on top of.

The problem is that because people aren't paying for it directly anymore, so people don't seem to think they have a say on what that money is spent in. We have been getting a lot of very average content in recent years. RNZ is really NZ's only real national ad free media station these days, and seems to be relatively impartial and non ratings driven. I swear that they seem to report on an entirely different country, from what the other stations are covering, as they cover things that are never covered in mainstream commercial stations.

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