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Topic # 204268 24-Sep-2016 11:42
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This may seem like a stupid question but I am hoping for a serious answer. At our location we have only had access to broadband for a couple of years. Before then our rural dial-up was so awful that streaming anything was out of the question. When this finally changed, all of it was a new learning experience for me. I started with a dedicated Windows streaming PC because that was what was familiar to me. As time went on, I became aware of other options and I investigated some of them, but I always went back to the PC. I did a lot of customising with scripts and the like, and over time I have tweaked it to the point where it works pretty well, especially as a media player. I have single-click menus that work from my remote and playing any recorded item is a snap. When streaming, URL shortcuts I have set up also work reasonably well, though this is not as simple. Browsing new sites from the couch remains a pain, though, in spite of shortcuts and macros I have created to streamline it as much as possible.

 

At various times I have looked at other options. I tried Google Cast, but it didn’t work well for us. When we got a Sony smart TV, I also checked that out, but I quickly realised it was a waste of time. I have kept coming back to the streaming PC as the least worst option.

 

I keep hearing about the experiences of others with Kodi, Plex, Apple TV, Roku, and so on, and I keep wondering if I am missing something. I did try downloading Plex and Kodi at different times, but all they seemed to do was make a mess of my well-ordered media files and I soon ditched them. As far as I can determine, this kind of software mainly just wants to act as a media player, and I don’t need or want that. What I want is something that simplifies the streaming interface.

 

One problem with that is that every site is different. YouTube uses HTML5 which at least has a short-cut key for going full screen, but it still requires awkward mouse movements to navigate, set up a file and start it playing. Most other sites still insist on Flash, which is even worse. Different sites require different clicks in different places to set resolution and play and do other things. It is not simple and I am the only one prepared to put up with it.

 

I have looked at the Apple TV site but I’m not prepared to pay for something that might not do what I need. What I need is basically a single-click interface for a range of different streaming sites. Does an ‘app’ actually do that? It isn’t completely clear. As far as I can see, it looks like it might work a bit like changing channels on a single site, such as Netflix, but not for navigating between sites. I get it that there are different apps for different sites, but I assume those only exist for mainstream ones.

 

The problem here is that our tastes are not mainstream. We don’t watch American series TV or blockbuster films, so we aren’t interested in Netflix or Amazon or services like that. We do watch BBC iPlayer, for which there is an app, along with ABC iView, SBS, some PBS, YouTube, and a number of European arts sites. Our taste is mostly art films, classical concerts, documentaries, and public broadcasting. We regularly switch between a dozen or so sites for this content.

 

So would Kodi, or Apple TV, or anything else actually add anything to our viewer experience or is my home-brew streaming computer actually the best that we can get? I would be interested to know what users of Kodi and the other options think about this. Again, I do not need or want a fancy media player interface. What I have already created over the past couple of years works for that as well as anything ever could. What I am looking for is something that makes streaming different channels on a wide range of different sites as simple as pressing the channel button on a TV remote. Is this even possible?

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1639800 24-Sep-2016 12:09
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Think something like FilmOn would work, or something similar ?





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  Reply # 1639802 24-Sep-2016 12:09
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I have been using Kodi/XBMC for a number of years and it is primarily geared toward playing locally-hosted video/audio. It does have PVR functionality, and there are quite a few community-created video streaming add-ons. Whether or not they are to your liking is a matter of taste. It seems like whenever someone releases a streaming plugin that works with popular streaming services, it is broken/deprecated very quickly.

 

It sounds to me like your preferences are quite specific. I really like my Kodi setup, but I'm not sure that it'd be suitable for your use-case.


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  Reply # 1639832 24-Sep-2016 12:40
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I agree with digmarx about kodi. I use it all the time to stream from my Windows share on my pc in another part of the house. I haven't bothered with plugins too much - as mentioned they might work for a while but don't get maintained and break after a while.

Chromecast can sometimes work ok.
One thing you might not have realised is that the chrome browser now has a built in cast feature that let's you cast a browser tab to a Chromecast. So if it will run in a browser it should be able to be cast. You can even type something like C:\temp\file.mp4 or just C:\folder into the url bar and navigate, find and play a media file in the browser tab (and cast it).





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  Reply # 1639857 24-Sep-2016 13:55
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rb99:

 

Think something like FilmOn would work, or something similar ?

 

 

Yes, Filmon is one of the sites we use. I'm just wondering if my streaming set-up can be improved on. I don't get the feeling it can.

 

 





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  Reply # 1639860 24-Sep-2016 14:01
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The above comments on Kodi seem to confirm what I already thought. I don't need a media server. We only have one viewing point that we use, and that is the lounge where the streaming computer is. It also has our video library on a large USB drive. What we need is a better way of navigating the streaming computer on-line.

 

Edit to add comment: When I had ChromeCast I was able to cast everything I could see by using the screen mirror function. That part worked okay but reception through the dongle was buggy. I got tired of screwing with it as the HDMI from the PC was so much better.

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1639884 24-Sep-2016 15:28
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Kodi is pretty overwhelming when you see the amount of addons and content. Perhaps have a look on youtube at some of the videos showing kodi in use?

 

these video addons will be of interest

 

ABC live (has live streams+ abc iview on demand)

 

SBS live (has sbs 1,2 live stream + sbs on demand)

 

Tenplay (australian tenplay on demand addon)

 

NZfreeview addon (live streams nz channels)

 

Filmon addon (Channels from Filmon service)

 

as for control , you can always control a kodi android stb device with a phone or tablet using the remote app. If you are sharing your media library on the media pc via dlna sharing or over network it will see it as well. Or plug the drive into the usb port of the STB.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1639887 24-Sep-2016 15:30
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Hold on is the Sony TV an Android one? if so you can load Kodi onto the set itself.

 

 




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  Reply # 1639888 24-Sep-2016 15:34
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Apsattv:

 

Hold on is the Sony TV an Android one? if so you can load Kodi onto the set itself.

 

 

 

 

Good question. I honestly don't know. I never thought about it before but I don't think so. It is a Sony Bravia smart TV but I have never done much with that part of it. 

 

 





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  Reply # 1639889 24-Sep-2016 15:38
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Apsattv:

 

Kodi is pretty overwhelming when you see the amount of addons and content. Perhaps have a look on youtube at some of the videos showing kodi in use?

 

these video addons will be of interest

 

ABC live (has live streams+ abc iview on demand)

 

SBS live (has sbs 1,2 live stream + sbs on demand)

 

Tenplay (australian tenplay on demand addon)

 

NZfreeview addon (live streams nz channels)

 

Filmon addon (Channels from Filmon service)

 

 

 

 

 

I presume that you need VPN to gain access to the ABC/SBS/Tenplay services?


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  Reply # 1639900 24-Sep-2016 15:48
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Bananabob:

 

Apsattv:

 

Kodi is pretty overwhelming when you see the amount of addons and content. Perhaps have a look on youtube at some of the videos showing kodi in use?

 

these video addons will be of interest

 

ABC live (has live streams+ abc iview on demand)

 

SBS live (has sbs 1,2 live stream + sbs on demand)

 

Tenplay (australian tenplay on demand addon)

 

NZfreeview addon (live streams nz channels)

 

Filmon addon (Channels from Filmon service)

 

 

 

 

 

I presume that you need VPN to gain access to the ABC/SBS/Tenplay services?

 

 

 

 

No :-)

 

 


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Can't get the ABC or SBS to work. Where is the log it says the errors are in?


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Bananabob:

 

Can't get the ABC or SBS to work. Where is the log it says the errors are in?

 

 

Try to download them all again from here

 

www.apsattv.com/kodi

 

 also note the "tenplay" is named catchup

 

 


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Apsattv:

 

Bananabob:

 

Can't get the ABC or SBS to work. Where is the log it says the errors are in?

 

 

Try to download them all again from here

 

www.apsattv.com/kodi

 

 also note the "tenplay" is named catchup

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you - Had a quick play with them this morning and got them working. Well mostly. The Tenplay one says it is missing a pre-req, what could that be?


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  Reply # 1640830 26-Sep-2016 17:14
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 Please post the exact error message?uis it script module rollbar? if so get it from here

 

http://addons.superrepo.org/script.module.rollbar/

save that then try and install from addons as a zip it should hopefully install the updated file


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