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  #1718423 10-Feb-2017 19:46
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ageorge:

 

We dont have a TV aerial here; just use broadband.

 

TVNZ Ondemand doesnt work on most of our devices due to DRM rights (annoying)

 

For my daughters birthday we got Netflix. This service seemed so good that after a few days we upgraded to HD and thats when problems started. Netflix 'standard' plan works with most anything but their HD plan although looks attractive, only worked with a couple of devices in our house, and even then, not in HD.
So you may have Netflix HD, have the bandwidth, but unless you have an approved device eg TV with Netflix, get low resolution.

 

If Netflix worked with all devices there should be no excuse for torrent downloads or Android streamers such as 'Showbox' but when Showbox actually works better than Netflix at zero price, the argument for legit watching gets watered down imho.

 

There is info on Netflix device compatibility on their site, (the device list is quite limited) but the bottom line is it comes down to money - when TV makers pay Netflix truckloads for their devices to be compatible, the small players like TV Box makers dont stand a chance. Also, my Samsung Note3 didnt work in HD. My linux PC didnt work until I fooled Netflix by using a spoofer; but its still running standard resolution. They claim that the reason devices are limited is because unapproved devices may not work properly; but surely a disclaimer would suffice eg 'unapproved devices may not work properly or with full resolution'; that would keep players like me happy and from what I read there are thousands who are missing out on HD.

 

Im importing a couple of TV boxes which have 4k streaming H265 VP9, but they work work with the HD service Im paying for from Netflix.

 

Wished there was a cost-effective service that we could use that once paid for, provided HD good quality like Netflix, unfortunately at the moment there seems nothing.

 

 

 

 

VP9 and H265 are NOT the same thing. VP9 is a codec invented by Google, H265 is by ISO/IEC MPEG

 

 

 

If you want 4k, pay the extra for netflix... It's worth it.


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  #1718476 10-Feb-2017 21:14
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blakamin:

 

I'd download a car!

 

 

 

Anyone got a link to the latest BMWs?

 

cool

 

 





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  #1718477 10-Feb-2017 21:18
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blakamin:

 

I'd download a car!

 

 

 

Anyone got a link to the latest BMWs?

 

cool

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nah, I want a 2017 5 or 7 series. :D


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  #1718479 10-Feb-2017 21:19
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Dratsab:

 

Partial screen grab from the sellers website. I imagine they will be preloading links.

 

 

Edit: re-uploaded image without sellers contact details.

 

 

I think there is little argument of whether theft is involved. This ad says "enjoy paid tv for free". The intentions of the device is pretty clear.





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  #1718487 10-Feb-2017 21:32
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So is "TV Box NZ" the same thing?

 

I note in their FAQs they say it's "a small computer (running android) which we have customised", and:

 

Q: What channels can I get?
A: Short answer. Literally thousands of channels! How long is a piece of string? We have all the channels ranging from live sport, to comedy. There is everything in-between, above and below. There is thousands of channels and more being added daily.

 

Q: Is there movies on this receiver?
A: Yes absolutely. You'll have access to thousands of movies which are all on demand! We have all the latest blockbusters and more movies than you could ever think of available! 

 

So not the slightest bit of detail.


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  #1718489 10-Feb-2017 21:36
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I can do all that with my browser. Anyone who buys one of those boxes sure is spending a lot to get 'paid tv for free'. Funny how ignorance goes with greed.

 

 





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  #1718509 10-Feb-2017 23:05
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Rikkitic:

 

This discussion has already taken place here, with every possible point of view well-represented. I don't see any point in rehashing all the same arguments. But I... 

 

 

...can't seem to stop myself





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  #1718542 11-Feb-2017 08:45
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compost:

 

Rikkitic:

 

This discussion has already taken place here, with every possible point of view well-represented. I don't see any point in rehashing all the same arguments. But I... 

 

 

...can't seem to stop myself

 

 

If they keep rolling out that old chestnut about copyright violation and theft, I will keep pointing out that they are full of it.





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  #1718553 11-Feb-2017 09:25
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Rikkitic:

 

I can do all that with my browser. Anyone who buys one of those boxes sure is spending a lot to get 'paid tv for free'. Funny how ignorance goes with greed.

 

 

Hmm before you make a statement like that; recognise your own ignorance; There are many who have Tellys prior to the advent of browsers/apps, where an external box is necessary for those features.

 

My C100S box provides freeview satellite and android apps includes Netflix to a very good but older Sony TV.

 

Regards,

 

Al.


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  #1718557 11-Feb-2017 09:46
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I think you are talking about something else. This isn't about an STB, but about an Android Kodi box with links anyone can find to pirated content that is being sold to the ignorant and greedy for about 10x more than its normal market value.

 

 





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  #1718915 12-Feb-2017 16:14
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Rikkitic:

 

compost:

 

Rikkitic:

 

This discussion has already taken place here, with every possible point of view well-represented. I don't see any point in rehashing all the same arguments. But I... 

 

 

...can't seem to stop myself

 

 

If they keep rolling out that old chestnut about copyright violation and theft, I will keep pointing out that they are full of it.

 

 

Thanks for clearing this up. So it's pointless rehashing all the same arguments...if someone else is doing it, not you.





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  #1718922 12-Feb-2017 16:36
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If I am attacked with fake arguments over something that has previously been exhaustively debated, I will defend my position. If you want to restart the copyright thread, that is up to you but I suggest you quit hijacking this topic.

 

 





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  #1719015 12-Feb-2017 17:34
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dickytim:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Yay. I am not a supporter of copyright as it currently exists nor corporate American interests

 

 

 

 

But are you a supported of theft?

 

Would you go into an Apple store and take an iPhone without paying for it? That is stealing from a Corporate American.

 

If so would you walk into a Warehouse and steal an iPhone?

 

Now would you walk into a franchise store owned by a Mum and Dad investor and steal an iPhone?

 

What would your justification be for either?

 

Would you bleat if someone walked into your house and stole your iPhone?

 



Just for fun.....

Bad examples. False premise. 

All your examples assume something physical being "stolen". 

Accessing a stream of a show already broadcast and seen (and recorded?) by millions in another country......sort of like your mate taping a TV show he saw on his TV back in the day and sending it to you so you can see it. 

That's a better example. 

 





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  #1719164 13-Feb-2017 06:25
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The premise is simply taking something that doesn't belong to you and you don't have the right to have/use.

 

That old chestnut as you put it is valid, you are just using semantics to dismiss it.

 

Now if you didn't want to rehash it you simply wouldn't respond, but alas you do.


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  #1719175 13-Feb-2017 08:05
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I think the real issue here is that if these people said "here is a box that lets you watch your own personal owned media (life family movies)" they would not sell, the way they are getting them to sell is by saying it has access to all this content for free and you just have to pay us $200+ dollars to do it.  They make it sound like there is nothing wrong with doing it but we all know that their devices would not sell if they did not include "all this free stuff and you no longer have to pay a monthly fee to netflix/sky/other"


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