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  Reply # 2198253 14-Mar-2019 21:21
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nzkc:

hio77:


@nzkc where are you getting the blue icon? (what platform)


 


thanks for the feedback :)



On the TV when Chromecasting to it.  I have a Mi Box that acts as a Chromecast.  When I cast from the mobile to it I see it.  Doesn't appear on web or app directly.


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Right OK. Know exactly what that is now as will the guys

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  Reply # 2198258 14-Mar-2019 21:31
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nzkc:

 

After playing with it a bit more I have a couple of comments (constructive feedback):

 

  • I find it weird the catch up programmes come before live feeds.  If I were tuning into something live I'd want to find it quickly and would expect it "front an centre" so to speak.
  • The 3 chevron blue logo is a bit too prominent for me.  Any chance it could be moved up and to the right a bit more?  Even better...could it be overlayed at the start and removed later on?
  • Great job getting the Android app out there at launch!  I say this because it is far more feature complete than the web browsing approach.  
  • Can we get an Android TV app too please?  Even if "eventually".
  • In the Android app - the order for the video quality seems to change.  Just now, when casting to a Chromecast the lowest res was at the top.  Now watching (the same feed) on the mobile the highest res is at the top.  I'd prefer highest at the top, however, I'd favour a consistent approach first.
  • Some video feeds are super smooth (eg the Rally coverage) - others are a bit jerky (e.g. Hockey).  I'm not sure why and dont think its at my end.  I have seen other streaming services combat this by allowing you to pause the feed to allow it to buffer a bit - even just a few seconds can be enough.  Image quality is great on the whole otherwise!
  • I managed to get the casting to pop up a DRM error! Not sure how/what I did.  It mentioned a DRM error with HTTP status 403 :D  Restarting the app solved it.

I know I'm being picky - especially as its still Beta.  You've done a great job Spark and this is looks a very promising platform!  Keen to try the live feeds when they start.

 

 

Its not being picky, its a beta, its what is needed. Your detail is excellent. This will be looked at tomorrow. The res order, yes that's been seen. Yes, Ive noticed WRC is smooth, as is F1. the Hockey isn't as good. Its better now, but not as good. It can be asked but I guess it may be the gear that was used for recording. WRC is big, NZ Womens hockey, not so much. That can be asked, what the feed was. DRM error has been seen 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2198265 14-Mar-2019 21:39
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Its not being picky, its a beta, its what is needed. Your detail is excellent. This will be looked at tomorrow. The res order, yes that's been seen. Yes, Ive noticed WRC is smooth, as is F1. the Hockey isn't as good. Its better now, but not as good. It can be asked but I guess it may be the gear that was used for recording. WRC is big, NZ Womens hockey, not so much. That can be asked, what the feed was. DRM error has been seen 

 

 

And I really do mean it as constructive (picky) feedback.  I think Spark have done well myself.

 

 


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  Reply # 2198266 14-Mar-2019 21:40
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I have this mental image of TalkieT and others sitting in on hourly conf calls from home since lunch trolling here (and other sources) feeding the harshest of critics (here) comments to a whiteboard of many to-dos and a rapid responce team head down butt up coding the earlier adjustments on the dev environment ready to publish :)


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Oblivian:

 

I have this mental image of TalkieT and others sitting in on hourly conf calls from home since lunch trolling here (and other sources) feeding the harshest of critics (here) comments to a whiteboard of many to-dos and a rapid responce team head down butt up coding the earlier adjustments on the dev environment ready to publish :)

 

 

LOL, not me. I am not in the core Sports team... I'm peripherally involved on the network side - I try to stay as clear from the apps as possible, that's all just black magic...

 

 

 

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  Reply # 2198274 14-Mar-2019 21:46
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Talkiet:

 

Oblivian:

 

I have this mental image of TalkieT and others sitting in on hourly conf calls from home since lunch trolling here (and other sources) feeding the harshest of critics (here) comments to a whiteboard of many to-dos and a rapid responce team head down butt up coding the earlier adjustments on the dev environment ready to publish :)

 

 

LOL, not me. I am not in the core Sports team... I'm peripherally involved on the network side - I try to stay as clear from the apps as possible, that's all just black magic...

 

 

 

N.

 

 

 

 

I am sure the app guys feel the same way about the stuff you do too :)

 

 


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  Reply # 2198275 14-Mar-2019 21:50
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networkn:

 

I am sure the app guys feel the same way about the stuff you do too :)

 

 

Us QA guys just sit there and go fix it, fix it, fix it.

 

 

 

damn, if only something was actually broken at neils hands i'd have something to bug him about all day long :P





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  Reply # 2198280 14-Mar-2019 21:57
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networkn:

 

3) Getting HD Picture isn't working well. I can get it around half the time. I have plenty of bandwidth and high quality Wifi. 

 

 

This sounds like something i may have seen in the wild..

 

To confirm a common trait, who would your provider be there?





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  Reply # 2198281 14-Mar-2019 22:00
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hio77:

 

networkn:

 

3) Getting HD Picture isn't working well. I can get it around half the time. I have plenty of bandwidth and high quality Wifi. 

 

 

This sounds like something i may have seen in the wild..

 

To confirm a common trait, who would your provider be there?

 

 

Voyager.

 

 


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  Reply # 2198283 14-Mar-2019 22:01
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I am getting a better experience on my Shield TV than my Android TV. I am not sure if it's a red herring or related to system load (spark end) or some other factor. Basically all the same issues, but less frequently. 

 

I'll try the Android TV tomorrow.

 

I'd say the F1 stuff works better than the other sports so far.

 

What is the expected sound output when Casting?

 

 


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  Reply # 2198285 14-Mar-2019 22:07
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networkn:

 

 related to system load (spark end).

 

 

Just to be clear, because of how the video stream is surfaced, system load (Bandwidth) is 100% on your providers side.

 

 

 

in saying that, i think i have managed to replicate a race condition that does cause the quality to seesaw. it stabilizes within a min on my spark connection.. takes longer on VF thus it's a heck of alot more noticable. (I'm not 100% sure why this difference shows itself as it doesn't seem bandwidth related, could be latency i suppose..)

 

I'll go see the team about that one tomorrow..





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  Reply # 2198287 14-Mar-2019 22:12
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Thanks.

 

 


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  Reply # 2198288 14-Mar-2019 22:18
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networkn:

I am getting a better experience on my Shield TV than my Android TV. I am not sure if it's a red herring or related to system load (spark end) or some other factor. Basically all the same issues, but less frequently. 


I'll try the Android TV tomorrow.


I'd say the F1 stuff works better than the other sports so far.


What is the expected sound output when Casting?


 



I’m seeing Dolby digital plus in 5.1 on my receiver watching F1 replays and WRC. The linear NBATV was two channels. Haven’t tested anything else yet. This was through a chromecast

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darthmeow:
networkn:

 

I am getting a better experience on my Shield TV than my Android TV. I am not sure if it's a red herring or related to system load (spark end) or some other factor. Basically all the same issues, but less frequently. 

 

I'll try the Android TV tomorrow.

 

I'd say the F1 stuff works better than the other sports so far.

 

What is the expected sound output when Casting?

 



I’m seeing Dolby digital plus in 5.1 on my receiver watching F1 replays and WRC. The linear NBATV was two channels. Haven’t tested anything else yet. This was through a chromecast

 

You probably already realise this, but IIRC Talkiet gave a list of bitrates, noting that the streams will vary. I mentioned early the womens hickey, you can imagine the truck roll gear being "slightly" less then what Liberty Media rolls out for F1! :-)  


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  Reply # 2198293 14-Mar-2019 22:47
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tdgeek:

 

You probably already realise this, but IIRC Talkiet gave a list of bitrates, noting that the streams will vary. I mentioned early the womens hickey, you can imagine the truck roll gear being "slightly" less then what Liberty Media rolls out for F1! :-)  

 

 

Although it really depends on the stream.  Watched a few hockey ones that were jerky to the point of unwatchable.  But the Womens NZL v CHN one is fine.  Possibly a lower refresh rate but definitely smooth compared to others.  Could be its later in the evening and pipes are less clogged.


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