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  Reply # 2199015 15-Mar-2019 19:21
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JarrodM:
davidcole: Anyone else (iOS). Only getting commentary and very little track sounds? And it seems quite disjointed In That they’re doing bits to Camera but the feed doesn’t show it.

I don’t know if this is normal as I’ve not watch f1 for years.

Other than that the picture looks really good (iOS to chromecast)


I believe it’s because they have the Sky UK commentary feed, but the international video feed. One of the spark guys mentioned it should have both uk audio and video tomorrow...

I’m doing a comparison between spark sport and Kayo Sports, video feed very comparable but the spark website/app/viewing experience has a long way to go until it reaches kayo’s Standard. Kayo feed has uk sky feed which has ads, I wonder what spark sport intends to do when uk sky go to ads? I assume this is just in practice sessions though.


You kinda here them go to ads, then there’s about a 5 second dead air before they start talking again.




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  Reply # 2199017 15-Mar-2019 19:27
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Jase2985:

 

Hold spark to account to what a free beta trial, you are kidding right?

 

be thankful you had a way of watching it

 

 

Sorry but that's not a very well thought through remark.  F1 is one of the world's most popular sports and it's viewing rights cost a bomb.  It is streamed world-wide in quality, but we can't access that because Spark bought the rights.  Spark should have their sh!t together on this from Day 1.  

 

As for suggesting it's a free trial ... show me a service that doesn't give you a cheap or free starter package?

 

Unimpressed at the moment.  But, to be conciliatory, yes it is "only" practice so far.  They need to have their ducks in a row by Saturday.

 

And I support the remark above that OD means available immediately after.  4 hours later will not suit F1 fans.  The news (and our mates) is/are full of the results by then.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2199023 15-Mar-2019 19:36
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Fp2 has finished, where is the post practice stuff?  Is this due to the video feed being world wide rather than Sky UK?


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  Reply # 2199024 15-Mar-2019 19:38
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Benoire:

 

Fp2 has finished, where is the post practice stuff?  Is this due to the video feed being world wide rather than Sky UK?

 

 

That would be the reason.

 

 


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  Reply # 2199110 15-Mar-2019 20:32
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Sorry if already covered in this post, but is there a way to watch the replay of free practice 2.

I missed it live earlier and was gonna sit and watch it now. Or will it be up later to watch on demand.

Using the App on IOS.

Edit. Ignore this post, re started app and now I see the replays.

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  Reply # 2199112 15-Mar-2019 20:35
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Talkiet said it could take up to 4 hours to be appear on demand after the event has finished.... So sometime around 10pm I'd expect.

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  Reply # 2199133 15-Mar-2019 21:03
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FP2 VOD is available now.

 

 





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  Reply # 2199134 15-Mar-2019 21:06
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The VOD stream , win10, i7 surface book 2 - chrome - stream is lovely!

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 2199257 15-Mar-2019 23:28
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Benoire: Talkiet said it could take up to 4 hours to be appear on demand after the event has finished.... So sometime around 10pm I'd expect.


Is this a technical limitation of the iStreamPlanet system? I know with Kayo we can watch replays from any point after the start of the broadcast including immediate after it has finished. For live programs, this is complete with ad breaks and the live channel watermark.

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  Reply # 2199276 16-Mar-2019 00:02
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some geek stuff.

 

Linear streams in spark sports.. url's begin with spark.akamaized.net

 

There's a DASH .mpd stream and and HLS .m3u8 stream both of which also have the usual -b backup akamai servers.

 

There is also the VOD created version for events, which uses, sparksports-vod.akamaized.net

 

Content is protected with Fairplay and widevine DRM

 

 

 

 





 


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  Reply # 2199347 16-Mar-2019 09:28
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Talkiet:

 

Quick clarification. After the event it may take up to 4 hours for the VOD asset to be created.

 

You can however watch the event from the start if you join while it's still running.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

 

 

As I suspected, this is one of the big downsides to streaming sports. Not being able to record one game while you watch another and then watch the recorded game straight after is going to suck when there are those days packed full of sport -and- those sports are on the same streaming platform. 

 

I don't understand technically how you can start watching halfway through and choose to watch it from the start, but not join 10 minutes after it has finished and not be able to do the same.

 

The stream/video/file/data  - whatever - is already sitting there on the server. A 4 hour delay sounds like some sort of downloading/saving/processing is done to make it available on demand. Whatever the process is does not sound very efficient.

 

Is this correct? Or is it more of a rights issue?


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  Reply # 2199349 16-Mar-2019 09:34
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KDee:

 

Talkiet:

 

Quick clarification. After the event it may take up to 4 hours for the VOD asset to be created.

 

You can however watch the event from the start if you join while it's still running.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

 

 

As I suspected, this is one of the big downsides to streaming sports. Not being able to record one game while you watch another and then watch the recorded game straight after is going to suck when there are those days packed full of sport -and- those sports are on the same streaming platform. 

 

I don't understand technically how you can start watching halfway through and choose to watch it from the start, but not join 10 minutes after it has finished and not be able to do the same.

 

The stream/video/file/data  - whatever - is already sitting there on the server. A 4 hour delay sounds like some sort of downloading/saving/processing is done to make it available on demand. Whatever the process is does not sound very efficient.

 

Is this correct? Or is it more of a rights issue?

 

 

It's nothing to do with rights. In _very_ simple terms the platform treats live and VOD (Video on Demand) assets differently. It still allows viewers to seek within the live asset while it's active, but when the live event finishes, the video from the live event is repackaged into a VoD asset. I don't know how much work is done to the file between the 2 formats but it's not an instantaneous process I'm afraid.

 

Cheers - N

 

 


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Reply # 2199352 16-Mar-2019 09:40
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Last night between 10pm and 12am I was unable to get the F1 one practice replays to stream full screen without the video pausing while sound continued, worked fine when not full screen in Firefox, DRM error edge and chrome was choppy in  normal and full screen. This morning it's playing in full screen mode 1080p/60 via Firefox without any issues and it looks amazing!

 

I also found out that my 2nd gen Chromecast does not support 1080p/60 so that may be getting upgraded ;-) as the 60fps stuff looks to good to be missing out on.

 

Another thing I found that helped picture quality was turning off 100hz motion plus when viewed via our TV/chromecast.


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  Reply # 2199354 16-Mar-2019 09:49
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Talkiet:

 

It's nothing to do with rights. In _very_ simple terms the platform treats live and VOD (Video on Demand) assets differently. It still allows viewers to seek within the live asset while it's active, but when the live event finishes, the video from the live event is repackaged into a VoD asset. I don't know how much work is done to the file between the 2 formats but it's not an instantaneous process I'm afraid.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

Two more questions if you don't mind:

 

1) How are you getting on with the audio mix for todays sessions and the race tomorrow? Hopefully the commentary/track levels can be sorted?

 

 

 

2) How would I go about knowing what my stream quality is in terms of resolution and fps? 

 

 

 

Again, really appreciate the help and insight you've been providing.


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KDee:

 

Talkiet:

 

It's nothing to do with rights. In _very_ simple terms the platform treats live and VOD (Video on Demand) assets differently. It still allows viewers to seek within the live asset while it's active, but when the live event finishes, the video from the live event is repackaged into a VoD asset. I don't know how much work is done to the file between the 2 formats but it's not an instantaneous process I'm afraid.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

Two more questions if you don't mind:

 

1) How are you getting on with the audio mix for todays sessions and the race tomorrow? Hopefully the commentary/track levels can be sorted?

 

 

 

2) How would I go about knowing what my stream quality is in terms of resolution and fps? 

 

 

 

Again, really appreciate the help and insight you've been providing.

 

 

I know the team has been targeting getting the correct feed for FP3 and quali today but I am not in on that particular bit of work. I'll only know when I join the audio conf before FP3 this afternoon.

 

The quality selector has been removed from most of the players at this stage but the app is pretty good at getting to the best achievable speed. I think that will come back at some stage, but probably not in the short term.

 

In firefox at least, you can choose settings/web developer/web console (or browser console) and play a video... You should see a line like this:

 

"go video quality changed 0 6160 bitmovinplayer-analytics-conviva.js:1:4109"

 

in the window - that 6160 (or 6000 depending on particular stream) is reserved for 1080P streams (25 and 50FPS)  so if you see 6000/6160 you're at 1080P. I don't know a way to check 25/50 sorry.

 

 

 

Cheers - N

 

 


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