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Topic # 245592 12-Feb-2019 09:27
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I am starting to get quite anxious at this point about Sparks coverage of the RWC.

 

Spark seems to be keeping the vast majority of details to itself, which I guess for commercial reasons, makes sense, however, for an event as significant to a huge number of Kiwi's, the lack of detail is unnerving.

 

The last two RWC's I have watched every single game. My intention was to do the same this year, however, all I can see mentioned is an App. Whilst I do understand App's can work on a number of platforms, these things usually take a fair number of iterations to bed down and get right. 

 

As mentioned I watched every game, on Sky, with a good rewind and FFWD function, and I am a subscriber to Netflix and other streaming services. In my view, especially for sport, the seek options for Sky are FAR FAR superior to those of the SVOD functions.

 

With only 9 months to go, this has the risk of going really badly. I really hope it doesn't, but I feel that Spark should be making details clearer and testing on a wider scale should really be starting very soon.

 

I do not want to be limited to watching my RWC on a smartphone or ipad BTW, so I am hoping they have a native android app and that it's stable.

 

Personally, I'd have been much happier if Sky had retained the rights, in my experience, watching sport over a stream is considerably less reliable than over a satelite. Sky is a proven performer in delivering sport content, even at the premium that some people think they charge. I am still hopeful that Spark will share the rights with Sky.

 

It would be much more reassuring if Spark gave some solid details. I am not THAT worried what it costs, it's a 1/4 year option for me, but I want an excellent viewing experience. The advantage I think Spark has, is it may be able to support a greater number of platforms.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2176935 12-Feb-2019 09:32
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Totally agree! 

 

Here's some latest info from Spark (yesterday) - https://www.autocar.co.nz/autocar-news-app/spark-sport-and-formula-1-spark-responds


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  Reply # 2176936 12-Feb-2019 09:35
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Just need to be patient, this has come up many times recently around the various sports they're going to be providing, they've said the service will be available by mid-March, so no doubt most of your questions will be answered by then.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2176937 12-Feb-2019 09:35
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Not going to be able to cater for those with only ADSL either.....there's going to have to be some cross provider action planned

 

 


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  Reply # 2176938 12-Feb-2019 09:36
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hsvhel:

 

Not going to be able to cater for those with only ADSL either.....there's going to have to be some cross provider action planned

 

 

Why is that? ADSL is perfectly capable of streaming content (at least a single stream at a time).


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  Reply # 2176939 12-Feb-2019 09:36
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Yep they'll be using the WRC/F1 series on the platform as the text for RWC and EPL so early adopters will bug fix prior to the spark main event.  I've got my reservations about the performance of F1 this year as a result but following the discussions in that thread we will have to wait and see how it actually pans out.




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  Reply # 2176942 12-Feb-2019 09:42
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From launch, it will be available via popular web browsers, Apple iPhone and iPad, Android phones and tablets, Google Chromecast and selected Samsung TVs. Over the first six months after launch, Spark Sport will gradually expand to become available on a range of content platforms including Apple TV, Panasonic, LG and Sony Smart TVs and more.

 

 

 

Hoping that includes Shield TV. Has anything been said about Amazon Devices?

 

 


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  Reply # 2176943 12-Feb-2019 09:46
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Probably not the shield, spark seem to have an exclusive license with Sony which is why lightbox is only on Sony Android TVs; doesn't stop you getting the app eventually but it requires someone to upload the apk and remove the device limitation as per the freeview app.




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  Reply # 2176945 12-Feb-2019 09:51
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I am prepared to muck around a little, but only if it's going to work well once it's done.

 

The BBC Iplayer thing was a nightmare to get going and utterly useless in my experience.

 

My upstairs bedroom TV is an Android TV, so that's good news.

 

I guess with the Chromecast option, I could push it like that. I haven't tried to use Lightbox et al over Chromecast, does anyone have any experience they could provide? 

 

I have a 70Mbps VDSL Connection and good wireless converage and also ethernet to most places I'd want entertainment to. 

 

 


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  Reply # 2176946 12-Feb-2019 09:52
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Benoire:

 

Yep they'll be using the WRC/F1 series on the platform as the text for RWC and EPL so early adopters will bug fix prior to the spark main event.  I've got my reservations about the performance of F1 this year as a result but following the discussions in that thread we will have to wait and see how it actually pans out.

 

 

Agreed. The F1\WRC fans will be the guinea pigs for the RWC.

 

How it is all going to be priced will be the other interesting bit, is it going to be one flat fee, or pay per sport. I'd guess a flat fee which covers everything. Guessing.


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  Reply # 2176947 12-Feb-2019 09:53
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Based on the latest info - how are my parents who don't have a smart TV or smart devices going to watch the RWC? They watched most of the last RWC matches on Sky because it's easy and one-click record. 
How is Spark going to cater for the needs of those in this situation?


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  Reply # 2176949 12-Feb-2019 09:55
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They might resell to Sky, similar to how BEin has done with the EPL but if you have no digital devices then your out of luck and would have to use a laptop connected or sit at the computer... If you don't have any of those (like my father in law) then you won't until the game is either shown FTA or the latter stages which should be FTA.


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  Reply # 2176950 12-Feb-2019 10:00
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Re-sell to Sky sounds like an option (then Sky charge for the Spark Sport channel). Don't know if they will do that, but they must have some form of backup in place.

 

I'd also say they will be looking at 'packages' for streaming where you pay up front and they'll 'give' you a Chromecast.




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  Reply # 2176951 12-Feb-2019 10:01
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Benoire:

 

They might resell to Sky, similar to how BEin has done with the EPL but if you have no digital devices then your out of luck and would have to use a laptop connected or sit at the computer... If you don't have any of those (like my father in law) then you won't until the game is either shown FTA or the latter stages which should be FTA.

 

 

If that ends up the case, then I think that would be disgraceful.

 

I do understand that technology is changing, but it's not changing THAT fast. We are a widely distributed group of humans, and anyone allowed to bid for coverage should have been required to cater for the majority as Sky manages to do.

 

One thing that comes up frequently in Anti Sky rants, of which there is many, is how bad weather impacts viewing. In my 20 years as a Sky Subscriber, I can count on 1 hand the number of times that weather has impacted my viewing experience. The number of times that other conditions like Wireless Strength, interference, other technical issues has impacted a SVOD experience is SIGNIFICANTLY more, and I have GOOD technology and a strong understanding how it works. I pity those without one or both.

 

 


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  Reply # 2176952 12-Feb-2019 10:03
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Capabilities and some more info talked about in the existing F1 2019 thread

 

Suggest watching this for some background to get an idea.. https://youtu.be/Z-wWUKxeQ-s?t=1988 

 

You won't be limited to mobile. But there is a target of 3.5-6Mbit connection therefore not all ADSL may not cut it in the feed QC checks.


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  Reply # 2176961 12-Feb-2019 10:15
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D.W:

 

hsvhel:

 

Not going to be able to cater for those with only ADSL either.....there's going to have to be some cross provider action planned

 

 

Why is that? ADSL is perfectly capable of streaming content (at least a single stream at a time).

 

 

@hsvhel @D.W ADSL1 on a Conklin cabinet? I don't think so

 

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