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  #2218087 16-Apr-2019 12:33
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Do you have to be a subscriber before you can register your interest?

 

Going to https://www.sparksport.co.nz/rwc2019 just redirects to the main page with the gigantic F1 banner being displayed


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  #2218090 16-Apr-2019 12:36
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WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

tdgeek:

 

WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

 

 

But if Spark are providing a service, it should be able to handle 800,00 subscribers now, not have to be scaled up as more and more people sign on.

 

 

 

 

800,000? Is there that many rugby fans?

 

 

No idea.

 

The point being the platform should be able to handle a high volume of concurrent users, not have to be scaled up as more and more subscribers join up.

 

If you're having to scale up as more and more subscribers join up, probably means you haven't load or stress tested the platform. How you simulate\test a high volume of users i don't know, and quite frankly isn't my problem.

 

For a rugby mad nation, the pressure will really be on Spark Sport all tournament, and i pity the team that will cop it if it doesn't perform.

 

 

You are assuming that the price structure means scaling up, thats a big assumption

 

IIRC NZNOG took 500,000 concurrent users as a base number, they took that as a conservative number, so they have planned for more. probably the wider issue, is your RSP all ready to go? Each RSP needs to be part of this, to recieve the feed from Akamai


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  #2218098 16-Apr-2019 12:47
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WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

tdgeek:

 

WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

 

 

But if Spark are providing a service, it should be able to handle 800,00 subscribers now, not have to be scaled up as more and more people sign on.

 

 

 

 

800,000? Is there that many rugby fans?

 

 

A quick search after my last post found this

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/73589391/null

 

For the RWC 2015 Final, Prime TV had an average of 670,900 viewers and Sky TV had 494,800.

 

 

 

 

Though that would be individual viewers presumably, and not the number of potential subscribers (as people would have viewing parties / go to a bar etc)




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  #2218101 16-Apr-2019 12:52
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Sort of related. Can someone in the know tell me why fast forward and rewind doesn't/can't work the same way that Sky works?


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  #2218107 16-Apr-2019 12:54
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networkn:

 

Sort of related. Can someone in the know tell me why fast forward and rewind doesn't/can't work the same way that Sky works?

 

 

Please use the main Spark Sports thread for this.





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freitasm:

 

Spark Sport announces its pricing for the tournament

 

 

Hoping "... our Smart TV apps" includes Nvidia Shield TV?

 

Will Spark stream 4K video?


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  #2219314 16-Apr-2019 17:35
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01EG:

 

freitasm:

 

Spark Sport announces its pricing for the tournament

 

 

Hoping "... our Smart TV apps" includes Nvidia Shield TV?

 

Will Spark stream 4K video?

 

 

Not for RWC per the nznog session.





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  #2219343 16-Apr-2019 18:12
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Has anyone else registered their interest yet?

 

I did this morning, but have received no email back to say my registration was successful.

 

 





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  #2219354 16-Apr-2019 18:36
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dfnt:

 

Do you have to be a subscriber before you can register your interest?

 

Going to https://www.sparksport.co.nz/rwc2019 just redirects to the main page with the gigantic F1 banner being displayed

 

 

If I read the announcement properly I would've seen the correct link is https://prereg.sparksport.co.nz/rwc2019

 

 


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Pricing looks good but I am reluctant to spend money this far in advance for something still in beta. I'm also very doubtful about this working at any level close to the consistency of performance of Sky's satellite service. Ultimately I'll subscribe as there's no other way to watch, but I think it's going to be a painful experience for many people. I know I am being negative but the RWC is the most important sporting event to me and many more kiwis and any technical glitches will not be tolerated. Spark better deliver or I can see this having a negative impact on their brand.

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MileHighKiwi: Pricing looks good but I am reluctant to spend money this far in advance for something still in beta. I'm also very doubtful about this working at any level close to the consistency of performance of Sky's satellite service. Ultimately I'll subscribe as there's no other way to watch, but I think it's going to be a painful experience for many people. I know I am being negative but the RWC is the most important sporting event to me and many more kiwis and any technical glitches will not be tolerated. Spark better deliver or I can see this having a negative impact on their brand.

 

Understandable. As a beta tester, it has had issues and there are still some. But its up, and the UI seems 95% done. The big deal for me was the video quality. I have Sky and like Sky, and the F1 is better than Sky. I had no issue with 1080i, but 1080p is noticeable. And buttery smooth. There seem to be some issues with some devices and browsers. iPad casting or Airplay is 10/10. Same with my MacBook, Safari and Chrome. I cant speak for PC or Android but while some have issues some are working great. On the surface it now seems loose ends. If Android TV and Apple TV occurs, and if mote Android devices were supported (rather than not yet supported but they work) then there will be a greater ease of use with a remote control.


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  #2219418 16-Apr-2019 20:10
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@networkn:


Relatively!?!?!


 


My Appoligies, I probably picked the wrong word.
My intention was to indicate it would be stable but as that isn't any part of my role I was looking to make an uncommital statement.

I would personally call broadband relatively stable. After all there are many vectors that could affect it that are totally external.




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  #2219430 16-Apr-2019 20:27
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MileHighKiwi: Pricing looks good but I am reluctant to spend money this far in advance for something still in beta. I'm also very doubtful about this working at any level close to the consistency of performance of Sky's satellite service. Ultimately I'll subscribe as there's no other way to watch, but I think it's going to be a painful experience for many people. I know I am being negative but the RWC is the most important sporting event to me and many more kiwis and any technical glitches will not be tolerated. Spark better deliver or I can see this having a negative impact on their brand.

 

Same here. I have had such a great Sky experience in terms of the past 2 RWC's where I could watch every single game and had zero issues. Navigating around recorded content meant I could get through all the games for the day in a couple of hours and still watch the good bits. I am really worried the experience won't be as good, and as such I'll end up paying twice for a subscription to another provider just in case. I understand some will consider this over the top, but for me, I look forward to this for 4 years.

 

There are some obvious benefits to the Spark solution in terms of being able to watch in additional rooms, so I can watch games in bed if I wish, or at the office if I wish, that Sky doesn't give me presently and I have grown to value these functions a lot lately.

 

The cost isn't a concern to me, but I'll be *pissed* if it's not good. I am not saying that Spark isn't doing it's utmost to ensure it's going to be good, but I have seen some concerning signs. I don't mind Scotty Stevenson but Grant Nisbet and Tony Johnson are my preference for commentators as well.

 

If they royally screw this up, their brand won't really suffer meaninfully, because it's the consumers impacted but not the consumers who decide who gets the rights. If they have the most money then they will get the rights. I would have felt 100x better if they rebroadcast onto Sky who have a proven record. The impact to me of this not going well is going to be far worse than a $60 refund would cover.

 

Like you, I understand this sounds mostly negative, I am geniunely hoping to be blown away, but to be honest, I hoped felt Spark would be much further along than this today. For the record, I'll be one of the first to hand over my money to Spark when it's time, and I would have done so even if Sky were getting the broadcasts, because for $60 I'd like to try and use the new platform, but primarily I want a guaranteed solution, or as close to it as I can.

 

 


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hio77: After all there are many vectors that could affect it that are totally external.

 

This is my issue with the streaming type solutions, that pretty much it gives streaming providers a get out of jail free card. Stream isn't perfect? Well looks fine at our end, must be your a) Internet b) Wireless c) Something on your network interfering d) you have a faulty device, app interfering, TV issue and the list goes on and on. 

 

With Sky the solution is theirs, end to end, they control all the facets of delivery.  Bad weather is about the only thing they can blame and it should be pretty obvious if that's true :)

 

I am not having a go at you personally, these are my concerns. It's not even anti Spark, I'd feel the same way if anyone else got the rights and decided to stream it only.

 

Having seen the UI for Spark Sport to date, I really hope they optimize it somewhat. With Sky I can pick the first game in the series and say series record. Everything is listed and shows in date order and I can see what I have watched, recorded and finished. I can remove items from my list, but most importantly, chronologically I know what I am watching next and it's not interspersed with other stuff I don't want. I want it to be as simple and painless as possible to sit down after work and start my app and get a list of JUST what I want to watch.

 

 


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  #2219522 17-Apr-2019 07:24
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networkn:

 

Same here. I have had such a great Sky experience in terms of the past 2 RWC's where I could watch every single game and had zero issues. Navigating around recorded content meant I could get through all the games for the day in a couple of hours and still watch the good bits. I am really worried the experience won't be as good, and as such I'll end up paying twice for a subscription to another provider just in case. I understand some will consider this over the top, but for me, I look forward to this for 4 years.

 

There are some obvious benefits to the Spark solution in terms of being able to watch in additional rooms, so I can watch games in bed if I wish, or at the office if I wish, that Sky doesn't give me presently and I have grown to value these functions a lot lately.

 

The cost isn't a concern to me, but I'll be *pissed* if it's not good. I am not saying that Spark isn't doing it's utmost to ensure it's going to be good, but I have seen some concerning signs. I don't mind Scotty Stevenson but Grant Nisbet and Tony Johnson are my preference for commentators as well.

 

If they royally screw this up, their brand won't really suffer meaninfully, because it's the consumers impacted but not the consumers who decide who gets the rights. If they have the most money then they will get the rights. I would have felt 100x better if they rebroadcast onto Sky who have a proven record. The impact to me of this not going well is going to be far worse than a $60 refund would cover.

 

Like you, I understand this sounds mostly negative, I am geniunely hoping to be blown away, but to be honest, I hoped felt Spark would be much further along than this today. For the record, I'll be one of the first to hand over my money to Spark when it's time, and I would have done so even if Sky were getting the broadcasts, because for $60 I'd like to try and use the new platform, but primarily I want a guaranteed solution, or as close to it as I can.

 

 

 

 

I am the exactly same with F1. Right now, the only issues that bother me are the apps (not browser) have a bug in the From Start (on livestream), thats just happened, its being fixed. The Home page has everything, yet the F1 page doesn't have ALL the F1. Pause and FF are a minor pain with the scrub bar, but on the ATV4 app I assume that will be better. Quality wise its great. So I have no concerns for my use case. I don't need to record, or forget to record. I know what I will get, great looking video and I can just use it.

 

The issue is what about when a lot of users use it?  I use 700GB a month, I assume that's common. Tonight Mum in law will be streaming from China, Daughter will be streaming from Netflix, I will probably be streaming Star Trek Discovery. In September if my stream was replaced by RWC it makes no difference to my provider, no extra congestion.

 

I'm not concerned. After all that TVNZ is there, not just for some FTA games but for backup


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