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  #2322991 22-Sep-2019 22:02
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freitasm:

 

BlakJak: And why shouldn't they blink? Now  is not the time to experiment. Now is the time to ensure their customers get the experience they pay for.. or it'll be a disaster for them. Credit for going as far as they have, but why overlook a perfectly valid method of media distribution due to a technical challenge they're not sure they've solved yet?

 

 

"Blinked" here is in the sense that they could have been conservative and sold the service as Chromecast plus DishTV A2 plus smartphones only. Smart TVs are a gamble because the vast majority are underpowered. And some are not even Android TV OS so you can count they won't be as well supported. 

 

 

Yes. But then, why cant I watch it thats not fair. Maybe NZ is not ready for live streaming, lets stick to Sky, then we have Sky bagging threads that tell us to get with the times.


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  #2322992 22-Sep-2019 22:04
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JarrodM: Streaming well today. But they need to have a singular daily stream option, so I don’t need to load up the next match once one has finished haha.

One thing I am seeing is that sometimes during the ads and studio coverage the video freezes for a second or two, the audio continues unaffected however.

I also note it seems they have sorted the audio sync issue they were having when the augmented reality graphics are on screen.


Difficult to have a continuous stream as some off the studio lead up means that’s games overlap a little.. but I know you were just kidding.

No freezes at all today.... what devices/setup are you using?




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  #2322993 22-Sep-2019 22:06
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Bobdn:

 

Anyway, as I said I do wonder if Spark should reach out to Sky to help get a solution.  Sky is the expert here and Sky's platform has been rock solid.  Even though they're competitors, this is the Rugby World Cup we're talking about.  It could be a nice moment in NZ's corporate history and make the world "a better place" (with a nod to 1997 Apple and Microsoft)

 

 

Mate, the Sky bashing threads here and everywhere are legendary. Does this mean we can bash Sky for years unless it suits?? They should have paid for the rights, as they always do




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  #2322996 22-Sep-2019 22:12
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looking at traffic stats here (2deg 100/20 fibre in Porirua) the data is not as peaky as yesterday.  Spark app 1.5.5 on shield TV. 

 

Yesterday it would be peaks and then back to 0, today there are wider peaks (at approx 12mbit) and drops down to  8mbit rather than 0. 


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  #2322997 22-Sep-2019 22:13
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tdgeek:

 

lchiu7:

I think I read somewhere this stream comes from Japan to New Zealand where the local content is inserted and then goes to the US for encoding and then streaming back to us in New Zealand which explains why there is such a long delay in the actual picture vs over-the-air.

 

No

 

 

No? As in, no that's not the path it takes? Or  no, that's not the reason for the delay?


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  #2322998 22-Sep-2019 22:14
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for those people that think spark sports has better picture quality, i disagree with all of you. The clarity is softer compared to sky sports, the frame rate was definitely less due to much more judder, it did not feel like 60 or 50 fps to me!
I was using chrome cast built into my NVIDIA shield. the 2 channels of audio is terrible and shocking bad.

 

 

Incorrect. 1080p at 60 vs 1080i


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  #2322999 22-Sep-2019 22:15
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Crowbar:
gehenna:
Crowbar:
gehenna:
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for those people that think spark sports has better picture quality, i disagree with all of you.

 



You can't disagree with facts.

Oh wait, it's still 2019 isn't it...


How'd you reach the conclusion, your opinion, that Spark Sport is better quality than sky Sport 😬


The resolution is 1080p not 1080i.


🙃 There are so many factors.

 

Which you state but dont tell us




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tdgeek:

 

sm1ff:

 

for those people that think spark sports has better picture quality, i disagree with all of you. The clarity is softer compared to sky sports, the frame rate was definitely less due to much more judder, it did not feel like 60 or 50 fps to me!
I was using chrome cast built into my NVIDIA shield. the 2 channels of audio is terrible and shocking bad.

 

 

Incorrect. 1080p at 60 vs 1080i

 

 

 

 

I had it on pretty good authority that its only being transmitted to spark at 50fps and spark are upscaling it before sending it out... god knows where they are pulling 10fps from.

 

 

 

I had terrible pics and audio drop outs all blinking day, tried restarting everything twice and got the same issue. I gave up and bolted to the pub in the end. even through a modulator at the pub it looked better than what I had paid for. Ill see about a refund to cover the costs of booz

 

 

 

100/20 vodafone default everything as its a new fibre install in chch

 

 


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  #2323007 22-Sep-2019 22:46
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tdgeek:

gehenna:


No-one has forgotten about the poor quality of Sky broadcasts.  But there was little alternative option at that time.  One would have hoped a new service on new infrastructure would take the lessons learnt by previous providers and resolve them, not introduce more problems of a similar ilk - i.e. substandard picture quality.    



There were HEAPS of alternatives at that time. Google Monopoly. But no one had the balls to complete. So Sky was left to have an easy time.  



I meant there weren't any real alternatives because Sky had the rights. The only alternative was waiting for FTA. I'm not talking about alternative services that could have competed for rights.

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tdgeek:

 

Crowbar:
gehenna:
Crowbar:
gehenna:
sm1ff:

 

for those people that think spark sports has better picture quality, i disagree with all of you.

 



You can't disagree with facts.

Oh wait, it's still 2019 isn't it...


How'd you reach the conclusion, your opinion, that Spark Sport is better quality than sky Sport 😬


The resolution is 1080p not 1080i.


🙃 There are so many factors.

 

Which you state but dont tell us

 



If it was as easy as looking on paper at the stated resolution of the broadcast/stream and then stating which is better from that, it would certainly make things easy :D

Real world results are what counts. No doubt things will get better, but there's certainly teething issues and the expected/potential quality was not realised when it counted (an All Blacks test).


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  #2323017 22-Sep-2019 23:23
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not Spark Sport's problem (unless you count their failure to code an LG app) but my Windows laptops won't connect to the 2018 LG C9





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  #2323018 22-Sep-2019 23:24
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whole 1st half Eng-Ton was fine but buffering a lot during half-time break





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  #2323021 22-Sep-2019 23:39
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gehenna:
tdgeek:

 

gehenna:

 

 

 

No-one has forgotten about the poor quality of Sky broadcasts.  But there was little alternative option at that time.  One would have hoped a new service on new infrastructure would take the lessons learnt by previous providers and resolve them, not introduce more problems of a similar ilk - i.e. substandard picture quality.    

 

 

 

 

 

 

There were HEAPS of alternatives at that time. Google Monopoly. But no one had the balls to complete. So Sky was left to have an easy time.  

 



I meant there weren't any real alternatives because Sky had the rights. The only alternative was waiting for FTA. I'm not talking about alternative services that could have competed for rights.

 

 

 

AS it is considered a sport of national significance, I have no problem with taxpayers money being spent to make sure it is on FTA TV. RNZ is supposed to eventually morph into some for of BBC eventually. It was funny to see how it was reported as the main news, almost like it was a national disaster that Spark had glitches broadcasting it.

 

I hope when they do have problems, and it has to be broadcast on Duke, that they aren't going to blcok streaming access, liek they currently are, as many people who are purchasing it on Spark will also only have streaming, and no UHF access. 


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kharris:
JarrodM: Streaming well today. But they need to have a singular daily stream option, so I don’t need to load up the next match once one has finished haha.

One thing I am seeing is that sometimes during the ads and studio coverage the video freezes for a second or two, the audio continues unaffected however.

I also note it seems they have sorted the audio sync issue they were having when the augmented reality graphics are on screen.


Difficult to have a continuous stream as some off the studio lead up means that’s games overlap a little.. but I know you were just kidding.

No freezes at all today.... what devices/setup are you using?


Apple TV 4K, Vodafone fibre 100/20, Ethernet connected. Weird as because it is only happening in the ads and studio stuff, games are going fine today.

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To put the SS failure in perspective, the entire NFL Gamepass is down worldwide at the start of games today.


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